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> The majority of people in The Netherlands drive their car to get to work I was curious about the statistics for this, and it looks like barely not to me, acc

by gpm 2y ago

> The majority of people in The Netherlands drive their car to get to work I was curious about the statistics for this, and it looks like barely not to me, according to this data: https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/figures/detail/84710ENG https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/figures/detail/84710ENG (the CSV you can download is much more readable than the table in the webpage) 0.44 trips/person/day travelling to/from work total in 2023, 0.21 of those by car. 2023 is the first year where that is the case though. Edit: If you go to the Dutch version of the data it includes another category for cars (commuting as a passenger in a car) that the English data omitted, with 0.01 of the trips. Moving it from "majority not-by-car in 2023" to "rounding errors mean the data doesn't say which is in the majority": https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/84710NED https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/84710NED

systemtest 2y ago
https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/personen/van-en-naar-werk https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/pe... > Inwoners van Nederland legden in 2022 gemiddeld 7,4 kilometer per dag af om van en naar het werk te gaan. Ruim 70 procent van de reizigerskilometers van en naar het werk werd met de auto afgelegd, meestal als bestuurder. De trein werd gebruikt voor 10 procent van deze kilometers, de gemiddelde afstand per treinverplaatsing van en naar het werk was 42,8 kilometer. Fietsen was goed voor 29 procent van de verplaatsingen van en naar het werk en voor 8 procent van de afgelegde afstand voor dit doel. De gemiddelde verplaatsingsafstand op de fiets was 4,7 kilometer. Minder dan 0,6 procent van de totale afstand om van en naar het werk te gaan werd te voet overbrugd. Google Translate: > In 2022, residents of the Netherlands traveled an average of 7.4 kilometers per day to and from work. More than 70 percent of the passenger kilometers to and from work were covered by car, usually as a driver. The train was used for 10 percent of these kilometers, the average distance per train trip to and from work was 42.8 kilometers. Cycling accounted for 29 percent of the trips to and from work and for 8 percent of the distance traveled for this purpose. The average distance traveled by bike was 4.7 kilometers. Less than 0.6 percent of the total distance to and from work was covered on foot.
- gpm 2y ago
  I assume that's the same data. Cars go further than the average bicycle/pedestrian so while ~50% of the trips were by car ~70% of the distance was.
BobaFloutist 2y ago
It's also funny because the Netherlands are the gold standard that other countries point at for "How to get people out of cars and onto bikes."
- digging 2y ago
  But it is. Over 77% of US workers commute in a car even in this data which includes people who work from home (ie don't regularly commute): https://www.bts.gov/browse-statistical-products-and-data/state-transportation-statistics/commute-mode https://www.bts.gov/browse-statistical-products-and-data/sta... So if you remove the 15% WFH, I'm not awake enough to math that out but car travel is the overwhelming majority and bicycle commute is still negligible.
- bobthepanda 2y ago
  Really Japan is probably the gold standard but people find comfort because the Netherlands is Western and thus familiar. Despite having little dedicated biking infrastructure to speak of, bike rates are estimated in Tokyo at a very healthy 13%.

by gpm 2y ago

systemtest 2y ago

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/personen/van-en-naar-werk https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/pe... > Inwoners van Nederland legden in 2022 gemiddeld 7,4 kilometer per dag af om van en naar het werk te gaan. Ruim 70 procent van de reizigerskilometers van en naar het werk werd met de auto afgelegd, meestal als bestuurder. De trein werd gebruikt voor 10 procent van deze kilometers, de gemiddelde afstand per treinverplaatsing van en naar het werk was 42,8 kilometer. Fietsen was goed voor 29 procent van de verplaatsingen van en naar het werk en voor 8 procent van de afgelegde afstand voor dit doel. De gemiddelde verplaatsingsafstand op de fiets was 4,7 kilometer. Minder dan 0,6 procent van de totale afstand om van en naar het werk te gaan werd te voet overbrugd. Google Translate: > In 2022, residents of the Netherlands traveled an average of 7.4 kilometers per day to and from work. More than 70 percent of the passenger kilometers to and from work were covered by car, usually as a driver. The train was used for 10 percent of these kilometers, the average distance per train trip to and from work was 42.8 kilometers. Cycling accounted for 29 percent of the trips to and from work and for 8 percent of the distance traveled for this purpose. The average distance traveled by bike was 4.7 kilometers. Less than 0.6 percent of the total distance to and from work was covered on foot.

gpm 2y ago
I assume that's the same data. Cars go further than the average bicycle/pedestrian so while ~50% of the trips were by car ~70% of the distance was.

BobaFloutist 2y ago

It's also funny because the Netherlands are the gold standard that other countries point at for "How to get people out of cars and onto bikes."

digging 2y ago
But it is. Over 77% of US workers commute in a car even in this data which includes people who work from home (ie don't regularly commute): https://www.bts.gov/browse-statistical-products-and-data/state-transportation-statistics/commute-mode https://www.bts.gov/browse-statistical-products-and-data/sta... So if you remove the 15% WFH, I'm not awake enough to math that out but car travel is the overwhelming majority and bicycle commute is still negligible.
bobthepanda 2y ago
Really Japan is probably the gold standard but people find comfort because the Netherlands is Western and thus familiar. Despite having little dedicated biking infrastructure to speak of, bike rates are estimated in Tokyo at a very healthy 13%.