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It could be Russia, but it could also be any political movement in France, such as far-left movements, opposing the Olympics or the government in general. Anot

It could be Russia, but it could also be any political movement in France, such as far-left movements, opposing the Olympics or the government in general. Another example: https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2024/07/26/non-artists-take-a-swipe-at-olympics-sponsor-with-bus-stop-protest-posters https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2024/07/26/non-artists-take-... Edit: to clarify, I'm French, and this exact same modus operandi has been used by far-left movements in the past to disrupt high-speed lines; if you have solid arguments against my theory, I suggest you address them before blindly downvoting.

mamonster 2y ago
Its also SNCF, which less than a year ago basically threatened to go on strike during these olympic games unless they got an exception to the retirement age reform (exception which they got). CGT-Cheminots (which is the main union) is the most despicable railworkers union in the world.
- pjerem 2y ago
  lol. Think what you want about cheminots, but one thing they all love and will never attack is railway infrastructure. SNCF may be a shitty company (mainly because it have been voluntary sabotaged by governments) but the people making those thousands of trains run everyday all over the country are almost the most passionate workers you could imagine. Yes they do have revendications, yes, they are good at striking, but they’ll never destroy the hardware and infrastructure they love and defend. Mainly because they respect it (railway is working because thousands people are working together to make it work) and also because of safety reasons : SNCF is one of the safest train network in the world because the cheminot culture puts safety on top of any other preoccupations. They’ll never harm infrastructure and never, never ever in a coordinated way. Also, when you criticize cheminots and SNCF, which I agree are far from perfect corporation and company and deserves criticism, don’t forget to look at the rest of the world and you’ll discover that most countries in the world would love to have our train network. It’s easy to brag about having imperfect things but it’s also easy to forget that at least we have them.
  - mamonster 2y ago
    >people making those thousands of trains run everyday all over the country are almost the most passionate workers you could imagine. I would probably also be really passionate about all the treasures I amassed by successfully threatening to strike at opportune moments. France is lucky EDF workers at nuclear plants or other critical infrastructure aren't so "passionate". >They’ll never harm infrastructure and never, never ever in a coordinated way. I mean, given the sort of attacks that happened, you can already be pretty certain that whoever did them had very good inside information about how the network works.
    - liotier 2y ago
      No. Pjerem obviously knows cheminots - they worship rail infrastructure. Labour conflicts involving cheminots are often brutal, but harming the rail infrastructure is a taboo never transgressed. In general, in labour conflicts across any industry, destroying the very instruments that provide legitimate power as a worker is so stupid that it is just not done.
      - mamonster 2y ago
        I would love to think like you, but one of the legacies of Martinez(and now Binet) is that CGT is now so openly political in terms of higher ups that such things can be outsourced to some left wing militias. Not suggesting Figaro is unbiased, but they are already reporting possible left wing involvement: https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/sabotage-sur-le-reseau-tgv-la-piste-de-l-ultragauche-privilegiee-20240726 https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/sabotage-sur-le-reseau-...
xjm 2y ago
I'm struggling to try and find information on "exact same modus operandi has been used by far-left movements in the past to disrupt high-speed lines" can you provide some links? (I'm assuming you are not talking about https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_de_Tarnac https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_de_Tarnac specifically which I would say is not "the exact same".)
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maeln 2y ago
> Edit: to clarify, I'm French, and this exact same modus operandi has been used by far-left movements in the past to disrupt high-speed lines; if you have solid arguments against my theory, I suggest you address them before blindly downvoting. The only remotely similar case is Tarnac, and it is ludicrous to even compare it with what is happening today. Tarnac was one line interrupted with a very different (and less destructive) method. Today was a coordinated attack at a much wider scale in a short amount of time. You would be hard press to find any far-left organization in France with the capacity to even approach such an operation.

mamonster 2y ago

Its also SNCF, which less than a year ago basically threatened to go on strike during these olympic games unless they got an exception to the retirement age reform (exception which they got). CGT-Cheminots (which is the main union) is the most despicable railworkers union in the world.

pjerem 2y ago
lol. Think what you want about cheminots, but one thing they all love and will never attack is railway infrastructure. SNCF may be a shitty company (mainly because it have been voluntary sabotaged by governments) but the people making those thousands of trains run everyday all over the country are almost the most passionate workers you could imagine. Yes they do have revendications, yes, they are good at striking, but they’ll never destroy the hardware and infrastructure they love and defend. Mainly because they respect it (railway is working because thousands people are working together to make it work) and also because of safety reasons : SNCF is one of the safest train network in the world because the cheminot culture puts safety on top of any other preoccupations. They’ll never harm infrastructure and never, never ever in a coordinated way. Also, when you criticize cheminots and SNCF, which I agree are far from perfect corporation and company and deserves criticism, don’t forget to look at the rest of the world and you’ll discover that most countries in the world would love to have our train network. It’s easy to brag about having imperfect things but it’s also easy to forget that at least we have them.
- mamonster 2y ago
  >people making those thousands of trains run everyday all over the country are almost the most passionate workers you could imagine. I would probably also be really passionate about all the treasures I amassed by successfully threatening to strike at opportune moments. France is lucky EDF workers at nuclear plants or other critical infrastructure aren't so "passionate". >They’ll never harm infrastructure and never, never ever in a coordinated way. I mean, given the sort of attacks that happened, you can already be pretty certain that whoever did them had very good inside information about how the network works.
  - liotier 2y ago
    No. Pjerem obviously knows cheminots - they worship rail infrastructure. Labour conflicts involving cheminots are often brutal, but harming the rail infrastructure is a taboo never transgressed. In general, in labour conflicts across any industry, destroying the very instruments that provide legitimate power as a worker is so stupid that it is just not done.
    - mamonster 2y ago
      I would love to think like you, but one of the legacies of Martinez(and now Binet) is that CGT is now so openly political in terms of higher ups that such things can be outsourced to some left wing militias. Not suggesting Figaro is unbiased, but they are already reporting possible left wing involvement: https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/sabotage-sur-le-reseau-tgv-la-piste-de-l-ultragauche-privilegiee-20240726 https://www.lefigaro.fr/faits-divers/sabotage-sur-le-reseau-...

xjm 2y ago

I'm struggling to try and find information on "exact same modus operandi has been used by far-left movements in the past to disrupt high-speed lines" can you provide some links? (I'm assuming you are not talking about https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_de_Tarnac https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_de_Tarnac specifically which I would say is not "the exact same".)

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maeln 2y ago

> Edit: to clarify, I'm French, and this exact same modus operandi has been used by far-left movements in the past to disrupt high-speed lines; if you have solid arguments against my theory, I suggest you address them before blindly downvoting. The only remotely similar case is Tarnac, and it is ludicrous to even compare it with what is happening today. Tarnac was one line interrupted with a very different (and less destructive) method. Today was a coordinated attack at a much wider scale in a short amount of time. You would be hard press to find any far-left organization in France with the capacity to even approach such an operation.