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I'll tell you what France can do: exactly nothing. France is not playing with the big boys anymore.

by rscho 2y ago

stirlo 2y ago
As a nuclear armed power that has shown far more propensity for military intervention outside their borders (see Africa) than all other nato members I wouldn’t bet against the French here.
iamacyborg 2y ago
France is now the de-facto most important political player in Europe.
- rscho 2y ago
  On what basis ? The country is well on its way to bankruptcy, and noone takes their politicians seriously, including foreign powers.
  - iamacyborg 2y ago
    On the basis that's it's the sole EU member state that's on the UN's security council, is a NATO founding member and is a nuclear power.
sofixa 2y ago
A nuclear submarine on 24/7 patrol with 16 intercontinental ballistic missiles, each with 6-10 independent nuclear warheads, says otherwise. So does the capabilities to deploy forces and fully sustain them independently anywhere in the world, something which at most 4-5 other countries can do.
- pelasaco 2y ago
  In the theory yes. I can imagine that when shit hits the fan, France isnt able to answer accordingly.
  - williamdclt 2y ago
    You can imagine whatever you want. The fact is that France is concretely prepared, "when shit hits the fan, it won't be able to answer accordingly" is a random dude-on-the-internet opinion
    - pelasaco 2y ago
      > The fact is that France is concretely prepared Thank you random dude-on-the-internet for your opinion. There is however enough information about SIGINT x French Missiles in the internet. Go and find them.
  - sofixa 2y ago
    So you think France spends collectively tens of billions of euros to have nuclear strike capabilities, but wouldn't use them because... "France"?
    - pelasaco 2y ago
      A country that has the courage to press the button, would never allow it become the social chaos that it is today.
      - rsynnott 2y ago
        ... Wait, which are these _non_-chaotic nuclear armed countries? Like, US: Jan 6th and all that. Russia: At least one major military coup in the last year. Britain: Brexit, new prime minister every three weeks, all infrastructure more or less at point of collapse. France: well, 'nuff said. You could maybe argue China, I suppose? Though I think they're just better at keeping the chaos boiling just below the surface.
      - basicpython 2y ago
        Social chaos? Revolt is part of France's DNA, since 1789. What country can claim to have no social problems? Moreover, military action and social issues are separate matters and I don't see the link with "pressing the button". Stop french bashing please.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago
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- rscho 2y ago
  You think anybody would choose national seppukku ? Great buddy, you launched your nukes with your big ass subz... now what do you think is going to happen? You think superpowers got no nukes close to France ? You'll be vaporized into nuclear waste gas before most of your nukes fly half the way. More realistically, you'd try to think how can France hurt superpowers economically: guess what, it can't.

I'll tell you what France can do: exactly nothing. France is not playing with the big boys anymore.

by rscho 2y ago

I'll tell you what France can do: exactly nothing. France is not playing with the big boys anymore.

As a nuclear armed power that has shown far more propensity for military intervention outside their borders (see Africa) than all other nato members I wouldn’t bet against the French here.

iamacyborg 2y ago

France is now the de-facto most important political player in Europe.

rscho 2y ago
On what basis ? The country is well on its way to bankruptcy, and noone takes their politicians seriously, including foreign powers.
- iamacyborg 2y ago
  On the basis that's it's the sole EU member state that's on the UN's security council, is a NATO founding member and is a nuclear power.

sofixa 2y ago

A nuclear submarine on 24/7 patrol with 16 intercontinental ballistic missiles, each with 6-10 independent nuclear warheads, says otherwise. So does the capabilities to deploy forces and fully sustain them independently anywhere in the world, something which at most 4-5 other countries can do.

pelasaco 2y ago
In the theory yes. I can imagine that when shit hits the fan, France isnt able to answer accordingly.
- williamdclt 2y ago
  You can imagine whatever you want. The fact is that France is concretely prepared, "when shit hits the fan, it won't be able to answer accordingly" is a random dude-on-the-internet opinion
  - pelasaco 2y ago
    > The fact is that France is concretely prepared Thank you random dude-on-the-internet for your opinion. There is however enough information about SIGINT x French Missiles in the internet. Go and find them.
- sofixa 2y ago
  So you think France spends collectively tens of billions of euros to have nuclear strike capabilities, but wouldn't use them because... "France"?
  - pelasaco 2y ago
    A country that has the courage to press the button, would never allow it become the social chaos that it is today.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
      ... Wait, which are these _non_-chaotic nuclear armed countries? Like, US: Jan 6th and all that. Russia: At least one major military coup in the last year. Britain: Brexit, new prime minister every three weeks, all infrastructure more or less at point of collapse. France: well, 'nuff said. You could maybe argue China, I suppose? Though I think they're just better at keeping the chaos boiling just below the surface.
    - basicpython 2y ago
      Social chaos? Revolt is part of France's DNA, since 1789. What country can claim to have no social problems? Moreover, military action and social issues are separate matters and I don't see the link with "pressing the button". Stop french bashing please.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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rscho 2y ago
You think anybody would choose national seppukku ? Great buddy, you launched your nukes with your big ass subz... now what do you think is going to happen? You think superpowers got no nukes close to France ? You'll be vaporized into nuclear waste gas before most of your nukes fly half the way. More realistically, you'd try to think how can France hurt superpowers economically: guess what, it can't.