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True, note domestic ISP IP ranges are published, and unless one deals internationally... don't bother serving people that will never buy anything from your firm

True, note domestic ISP IP ranges are published, and unless one deals internationally... don't bother serving people that will never buy anything from your firm anyways. Domestic "Users" functioning as proxies will be tripping usage limits, and getting temporarily banned. Google does this by the way, try hammering their services and find out what happens. Context cookies also immediately flag egregious multi-user routes, and if it is a ISP IP you know its a problem user. If it is over 15 users an hour per IP, than you can be 100% sure its a Tor proxy. we ban over 243000+ IPs, and saw zero impact to our bottom line. Have a nice day, =)

DamonHD 2y ago
Those of us running sites for public information rather than sales cannot make the simple cut-off that you do. And again, none of this is simple. It has taken me a few weeks to establish a usage mechanism that does catch the worst feed pullers, but it still can hurt legit new users. That is an opportunity cost.
- Joel_Mckay 2y ago
  One must assume most user IP edge proxies are compromised hosts. If someone paid for that list they were almost certainly conned, as the black hats regularly publish that content on their forums. These folks want as many users as possible in order to hide their nuisance traffic origin in the traffic noise. Allowing users known to have an active RAT or their "proxy friends" on a commercial site is not helping anyone.... especially the victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q Worth studying the problem from time to time when you get bored of the antics. These folks are generally uninterested in positively contributing to any community, but rather show up to cause trouble for fun and profit. User API quotas are popular for a reason. =3

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True, note domestic ISP IP ranges are published, and unless one deals internationally... don't bother serving people that will never buy anything from your firm

by Joel_Mckay 2y ago

DamonHD 2y ago
Those of us running sites for public information rather than sales cannot make the simple cut-off that you do. And again, none of this is simple. It has taken me a few weeks to establish a usage mechanism that does catch the worst feed pullers, but it still can hurt legit new users. That is an opportunity cost.
- Joel_Mckay 2y ago
  One must assume most user IP edge proxies are compromised hosts. If someone paid for that list they were almost certainly conned, as the black hats regularly publish that content on their forums. These folks want as many users as possible in order to hide their nuisance traffic origin in the traffic noise. Allowing users known to have an active RAT or their "proxy friends" on a commercial site is not helping anyone.... especially the victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q Worth studying the problem from time to time when you get bored of the antics. These folks are generally uninterested in positively contributing to any community, but rather show up to cause trouble for fun and profit. User API quotas are popular for a reason. =3