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> There is no requirement of de-anonymization. […] They can do this by hiring staff to video chat with potential users and ask them to show an ID. What you are

by choo-t 2y ago

> There is no requirement of de-anonymization. […] They can do this by hiring staff to video chat with potential users and ask them to show an ID. What you are describing is de-anonymization. > Alternatively, Pornhub can partner with physical storefronts and create a system so that your local corner store can verify you for a fee. Dito. Plus you now have to announce to your local shop your porn consumption. I have no idea of your local customs, but it's not a subject commonly talked about with the grocery cashier here.

anon291 2y ago
> Dito. Plus you now have to announce to your local shop your porn consumption. I have no idea of your local customs, but it's not a subject commonly talked about with the grocery cashier here. No different than having to buy porn magazines at your local corner store.... And that's the point. If you include having to present yourself to someone, never in history has there ever been a presumption of complete anonymity. That's a made up right. In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it.
- choo-t 2y ago
  > No different than having to buy porn magazines at your local corner store.... And that's the point. So… going 25 years back in time and forgo any online shopping ? Or your argumentum ad antiquitatem should only apply to porn ? > never in history has there ever been a presumption of complete anonymity. Everything as a first. > In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. That's an absolute insane take. Different peoples have different morals values, not wanting to broadcast your personal life as nothing to do with "embarrassment", and a lot of time, more about your safety. Should people don't abort because they don't want to tell everyone about it ? Do you always tell your coworkers when your going to take shit ? Do you share your sexual life with your plumber ? Even if he's a religious bigot and your gay ?
  - anon291 2y ago
    Online shopping is not anonymous at all. You provide your name, address, etc. > That's an absolute insane take. Different peoples have different morals values, not wanting to broadcast your personal life as nothing to do with "embarrassment", and a lot of time, more about your safety. Absolutely! You have every right to think showing pornography to children is not only morally right, but morally required. However, the laws of the state of California, and most other states, say it's illegal. So regardless of what you think, under the law you are a criminal. Pornhub has every right to believe what it likes!
- creata 2y ago
  > In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. That's an insanely privileged perspective. Lots of people need to hide things, because, like it or not, society is full of judgmental dickheads.
  - anon291 2y ago
    You're probably not totally wrong, but I'm failing to see where pornography fits into this. No one is going to die due to lack of access to porn. We made do for decades / centuries with having to show ID or convincing someone else to get it for you.
    - choo-t 2y ago
      We also spend millennia without tap water. That's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
- spacemadness 2y ago
  > In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. Are you trolling? This comment is breathtaking in its naivety.

by choo-t 2y ago

anon291 2y ago

> Dito. Plus you now have to announce to your local shop your porn consumption. I have no idea of your local customs, but it's not a subject commonly talked about with the grocery cashier here. No different than having to buy porn magazines at your local corner store.... And that's the point. If you include having to present yourself to someone, never in history has there ever been a presumption of complete anonymity. That's a made up right. In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it.

choo-t 2y ago
> No different than having to buy porn magazines at your local corner store.... And that's the point. So… going 25 years back in time and forgo any online shopping ? Or your argumentum ad antiquitatem should only apply to porn ? > never in history has there ever been a presumption of complete anonymity. Everything as a first. > In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. That's an absolute insane take. Different peoples have different morals values, not wanting to broadcast your personal life as nothing to do with "embarrassment", and a lot of time, more about your safety. Should people don't abort because they don't want to tell everyone about it ? Do you always tell your coworkers when your going to take shit ? Do you share your sexual life with your plumber ? Even if he's a religious bigot and your gay ?
- anon291 2y ago
  Online shopping is not anonymous at all. You provide your name, address, etc. > That's an absolute insane take. Different peoples have different morals values, not wanting to broadcast your personal life as nothing to do with "embarrassment", and a lot of time, more about your safety. Absolutely! You have every right to think showing pornography to children is not only morally right, but morally required. However, the laws of the state of California, and most other states, say it's illegal. So regardless of what you think, under the law you are a criminal. Pornhub has every right to believe what it likes!
creata 2y ago
> In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. That's an insanely privileged perspective. Lots of people need to hide things, because, like it or not, society is full of judgmental dickheads.
- anon291 2y ago
  You're probably not totally wrong, but I'm failing to see where pornography fits into this. No one is going to die due to lack of access to porn. We made do for decades / centuries with having to show ID or convincing someone else to get it for you.
  - choo-t 2y ago
    We also spend millennia without tap water. That's not an argument, that's a logical fallacy[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
spacemadness 2y ago
> In general, if you're embarrassed to tell someone else what you're doing you probably shouldn't do it. Are you trolling? This comment is breathtaking in its naivety.