It annoys me a bit that "it depends how you define a programmer" is a wrong answer. "12 full-time software engineers, 4 data scientists who touch the SQL report

It annoys me a bit that "it depends how you define a programmer" is a wrong answer. "12 full-time software engineers, 4 data scientists who touch the SQL reports sometimes, and we contract out some front-end UI work plus we have a full-time email marketing guy who does HTML templates" would be better, but that's still just a more complicated way of saying "it depends".