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Can someone provide a tl;dw? I don't have time to watch a 53min video, and it's tough to skip around the way one might in a structured article. Curious what the

by wand3r 2y ago

Can someone provide a tl;dw? I don't have time to watch a 53min video, and it's tough to skip around the way one might in a structured article. Curious what the main claims are?

Peroni 2y ago
There's an element of kayfabe to a lot of MrBeast's videos. Harmless kayfabe that most rational adults can see through and not care about (selective post editing to increase tension, etc). This somehow makes MrBeast a bad man. He also seems to think that MrBeast should be 100% altruistic and that using his videos to promote products to children is bad.
- debacle 2y ago
  Children have died because they didn't know professional wrestling was fake. Something like half of young kids want to become streamers when they grow up. It's an important conversation to have.
  - Peroni 2y ago
    Children have died because they didn't know professional wrestling was fake. No-one is dying because MrBeast tells kids to subscribe and buy feastables. What conversation are we supposed to have?
    - jeffwask 2y ago
      Yet... I can see the next generation iterating on his contest style challenge videos in a more guerilla style with less resources and safety leading to a similar outcome.
    - piva00 2y ago
      The conversation about an adult YouTuber using psychological manipulation to milk children for money through gambling? No one is dying, just children being exploited. No biggie.
- drcongo 2y ago
  That's very much not what the video says.
  - Peroni 2y ago
    Go ahead and provide a more accurate tl;dw then.
  - bigtex 2y ago
    Maybe somebody with use AI to summarize the video...
piva00 2y ago
I've watched it all while doing something else because I never understood MrBeast's success, had listened to some interviews he had done before, and apart from learning how to manipulate YouTube. I never really believed in the whole "I invest everything back into my videos", he always sounded unauthentic/ingenuine to me for some reason. The key points I got from background listening: 1. MrBeast is a fraud by advertising that all of his videos are real, while most are heavily edited. 2. MrBeast uses psychological techniques to manipulate children: call to actions (subscribing) with positive or negative reinforcement; then evolved into scam giveaways where the prizes are never distributed. [0] 3. MrBeast's game shows are rigged, and unfair, against any Standards and Practices that public broadcast shows are required to follow by law. 4. MrBeast runs illegal lotteries by promising to give away prizes, one example is signing merch and selecting an order at random time windows to have the next prize in the parcel. Prizes can vary from videogames, valuable electronics, all the way to cash amounts. 4.1. The merch signing is also somewhat fraudulent, some other crew members sign off the merch with MrBeast's signature to make the fans believe they got it signed by Jimmy himself. 5. MrBeast evolved these techniques to push kids into gambling for possible prizes to the real world with Feastables, stating there were tickets to participate in some event with him distributed at random between all Feastables; a YouTuber with 700k+ subscribers was "randomly" one of the winners. [1] 6. MrBeast's advertising of Feastables was initially that those were much healthier than a Hershey's bar, using less ingredients (implying that Hershey's composition was unhealthy); after those initial claims the recipe was changed and almost matches all the ingredients in a Hershey's bar. The summary to me is that MrBeast is exploiting children with the same mechanisms of lootboxes, basically making children become gamblers; pushing it into the real world by making them purchase (and potentially consume) as many chocolate bars they can get for a very, very small chance of winning some prize. It's not known how fair the distribution of prizes is among those bars. As usual, another grifter, this one chose to exploit children so many consider him smart. [0] Also cited in this AMA: https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_mrbeast_from_march_to_june_2024_i/legbv19/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_m... [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_mrbeast_from_march_to_june_2024_i/lel8k03/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_m...
- wand3r 2y ago

by wand3r 2y ago

Can someone provide a tl;dw? I don't have time to watch a 53min video, and it's tough to skip around the way one might in a structured article. Curious what the main claims are?

Peroni 2y ago

There's an element of kayfabe to a lot of MrBeast's videos. Harmless kayfabe that most rational adults can see through and not care about (selective post editing to increase tension, etc). This somehow makes MrBeast a bad man. He also seems to think that MrBeast should be 100% altruistic and that using his videos to promote products to children is bad.

debacle 2y ago
Children have died because they didn't know professional wrestling was fake. Something like half of young kids want to become streamers when they grow up. It's an important conversation to have.
- Peroni 2y ago
  Children have died because they didn't know professional wrestling was fake. No-one is dying because MrBeast tells kids to subscribe and buy feastables. What conversation are we supposed to have?
  - jeffwask 2y ago
    Yet... I can see the next generation iterating on his contest style challenge videos in a more guerilla style with less resources and safety leading to a similar outcome.
  - piva00 2y ago
    The conversation about an adult YouTuber using psychological manipulation to milk children for money through gambling? No one is dying, just children being exploited. No biggie.
drcongo 2y ago
That's very much not what the video says.
- Peroni 2y ago
  Go ahead and provide a more accurate tl;dw then.
- bigtex 2y ago
  Maybe somebody with use AI to summarize the video...

piva00 2y ago

I've watched it all while doing something else because I never understood MrBeast's success, had listened to some interviews he had done before, and apart from learning how to manipulate YouTube. I never really believed in the whole "I invest everything back into my videos", he always sounded unauthentic/ingenuine to me for some reason. The key points I got from background listening: 1. MrBeast is a fraud by advertising that all of his videos are real, while most are heavily edited. 2. MrBeast uses psychological techniques to manipulate children: call to actions (subscribing) with positive or negative reinforcement; then evolved into scam giveaways where the prizes are never distributed. [0] 3. MrBeast's game shows are rigged, and unfair, against any Standards and Practices that public broadcast shows are required to follow by law. 4. MrBeast runs illegal lotteries by promising to give away prizes, one example is signing merch and selecting an order at random time windows to have the next prize in the parcel. Prizes can vary from videogames, valuable electronics, all the way to cash amounts. 4.1. The merch signing is also somewhat fraudulent, some other crew members sign off the merch with MrBeast's signature to make the fans believe they got it signed by Jimmy himself. 5. MrBeast evolved these techniques to push kids into gambling for possible prizes to the real world with Feastables, stating there were tickets to participate in some event with him distributed at random between all Feastables; a YouTuber with 700k+ subscribers was "randomly" one of the winners. [1] 6. MrBeast's advertising of Feastables was initially that those were much healthier than a Hershey's bar, using less ingredients (implying that Hershey's composition was unhealthy); after those initial claims the recipe was changed and almost matches all the ingredients in a Hershey's bar. The summary to me is that MrBeast is exploiting children with the same mechanisms of lootboxes, basically making children become gamblers; pushing it into the real world by making them purchase (and potentially consume) as many chocolate bars they can get for a very, very small chance of winning some prize. It's not known how fair the distribution of prizes is among those bars. As usual, another grifter, this one chose to exploit children so many consider him smart. [0] Also cited in this AMA: https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_mrbeast_from_march_to_june_2024_i/legbv19/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_m... [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_mrbeast_from_march_to_june_2024_i/lel8k03/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1e9qk2s/i_worked_for_m...

wand3r 2y ago