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In one-on-one hand-to-hand combat, an adult male chimp can savagely defeat a baseline human.
by KineticLensman 2y ago
In one-on-one hand-to-hand combat, an adult male chimp can savagely defeat a baseline human.
- a-french-anon 2y agoIt might be more because of what the baseline (both physical and mental) has become, though.
- bluGill 2y agoBut humans would not get involved in one on one hand to hand combat with a chimp. We would avoid combat, or use tools (likely a gun)
- KineticLensman 2y agoHaving volunteered at an ape rescue centre, I've heard some horrific stories about what happens when a chimp fights a person. Example scenarios include people who keep chimps as pets and zoo keepers who don't close a door correctly. Example injuries to the humans include fingers and other parts being bitten off, or being blinded. A worst case scenario for a zoo involves a group of chimps getting out and then getting frightened, and fighting. Of course a gun will solve this problem, hence my comment about 'baseline'. Perhaps I should have said 'unaugmented'.
- dhosek 2y agoMonkey bite your face off.
- jojobas 2y agoThey are pretty horrible to each other at times too. More or less illustrates the somewhat Hobbesian idea of continual reduction of violence since probably the last common ancestor to today.
- keybored 2y agoRight-wingers compare human nature to chimps; left-wingers to bonobos. What does that tell us about humans? Nothing.
- dhosek 2y agoWhat I find fascinating is the bifurcation of R-rated behaviors between chimps (violence) and bonobos (sex). I read somewhere about a similar bifurcation in species of dolphins or porpoises where there were was one species which would exhibit high levels of violence and another which was all about the sexy fun time, but that was 30 years ago or so I read it and I have little hope of ever recovering that information (assuming it’s even true, which is not guaranteed for popular science reporting).
- jojobas 2y agoThis is a myth. Bonobos are at times more than happy to bash each other's heads in, and chimps shag a lot.
- JackFr 2y agoGombe Chimpanzee War. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
- lupire 2y agoPart of that is most humans' ingrained resistance against being murderously vicious. It's easy to gouge eyes out, but it's hard for most people to actually do it.
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y agoA chimp pulled someone's foot off in one incident - they are brutally strong.
- tetris11 2y agoYes but in one-on-one hand-to-hand tango, I think there'd be an even match
- jojobas 2y agoWell I mean at least intellectually.