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I think people commenting on here are commenting on the "Israeli" part and are ignoring the bigger issue - which country is it that attacked the MEP. Israel is

I think people commenting on here are commenting on the "Israeli" part and are ignoring the bigger issue - which country is it that attacked the MEP. Israel is very laissez-faire about regulating the tech industry because it employs almost 10% of the country. As such, offensive security companies sell to anyone who isn't on the US Sanctions list. The question is which buyer did the attack. Hidden between the lines of the reporting is that it might be Hungarian intelligence [0] Imo, the bigger question is why Hungary, Poland, Spain, Greece, and Cyprus (all countries part of the recent EU Spyware Scandal) [1] continue to allow their Interior Ministries to attack the phones of both domestic and foreign opponents, and are abusing "Spyware for political gain" [2]. [0] - https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/brussels-playbook/orban-critic-mep-targeted-with-spyware/ https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/brussels-playbook/orban-c... [1] - https://www.politico.eu/article/parliament-defense-subcommittee-phones-checked-for-spyware/ https://www.politico.eu/article/parliament-defense-subcommit... [2] - https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-spyware-probe-slams-government-leaders-as-perpetrators-of-abuse/ https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-spyware-probe-slams-gover...

mcantelon 2y ago
>Imo, the bigger question is why Hungary, Poland, Spain, Greece, and Cyprus (all countries part of the recent EU Spyware Scandal) [1] continue to allow their Interior Ministries to attack the phones of both domestic and foreign opponents, and are abusing "Spyware for political gain" [2]. It's also a national security issue given that Israel may be piggybacking on the spying.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  The management console for a lot of these products tend to be hosted on-Prem behind fairly restricted network controls with traffic closely monitored by customers. While this doesn't mean that there probably isn't some phoning in, it's extremely difficult to obfuscate. That said, the act of purchasing a product like this can absolutely be used as leverage, but that's any sort of weapons sale (which this functionally is)

mcantelon 2y ago

>Imo, the bigger question is why Hungary, Poland, Spain, Greece, and Cyprus (all countries part of the recent EU Spyware Scandal) [1] continue to allow their Interior Ministries to attack the phones of both domestic and foreign opponents, and are abusing "Spyware for political gain" [2]. It's also a national security issue given that Israel may be piggybacking on the spying.

alephnerd 2y ago
The management console for a lot of these products tend to be hosted on-Prem behind fairly restricted network controls with traffic closely monitored by customers. While this doesn't mean that there probably isn't some phoning in, it's extremely difficult to obfuscate. That said, the act of purchasing a product like this can absolutely be used as leverage, but that's any sort of weapons sale (which this functionally is)