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When you get x on turmux working you see what mobile development could have been and weep for the fallen world we live in.

westurner 2y ago
containers/podman > [Feature]: Android support: https://github.com/containers/podman/discussions/17717 https://github.com/containers/podman/discussions/17717 : > There are docker and containerd in termux-packages. https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/tree/master/root-packages/docker https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/tree/master/root-p... But Android 13+ supports rootless pKVM VMs, which podman-machine should be able to run containers in; (but only APK-installed binaries are blessed with the necessary extended filesystem attributes to exec on Android 4.4+ with SELinux in enforcing mode.) - Android pKVM: https://source.android.com/docs/core/virtualization/architecture https://source.android.com/docs/core/virtualization/architec... : > qemu + pKVM + podman-machine: > The protected kernel-based virtual machine (pKVM) is built upon the Linux KVM hypervisor, which has been extended with the ability to restrict access to the payloads running in guest virtual machines marked ‘protected’ at the time of creation. > KVM/arm64 supports different execution modes depending on the availability of certain CPU features, namely, the Virtualization Host Extensions (VHE) (ARMv8.1 and later). - "Android 13 virtualization lets [Pixel >= 6] run Windows 11, Linux distributions" (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 It's faster to keep a minimal container hosting VM updated. So, podman-machine for Android in Termux might help solve for development UX on Android (and e.g. Android Studio on Android). podman-machine: https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-machine.1.html https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-machine.1.h...
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Wait so you're telling me I can run podman on android?
  - westurner 2y ago
    Looks like it's almost possible to run podman-machine on Android; and it's already possible to manually create your qcow for the qemu on Android and then run containers in that VM: https://github.com/cyberkernelofficial/docker-in-termux https://github.com/cyberkernelofficial/docker-in-termux

westurner 2y ago

containers/podman > [Feature]: Android support: https://github.com/containers/podman/discussions/17717 https://github.com/containers/podman/discussions/17717 : > There are docker and containerd in termux-packages. https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/tree/master/root-packages/docker https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/tree/master/root-p... But Android 13+ supports rootless pKVM VMs, which podman-machine should be able to run containers in; (but only APK-installed binaries are blessed with the necessary extended filesystem attributes to exec on Android 4.4+ with SELinux in enforcing mode.) - Android pKVM: https://source.android.com/docs/core/virtualization/architecture https://source.android.com/docs/core/virtualization/architec... : > qemu + pKVM + podman-machine: > The protected kernel-based virtual machine (pKVM) is built upon the Linux KVM hypervisor, which has been extended with the ability to restrict access to the payloads running in guest virtual machines marked ‘protected’ at the time of creation. > KVM/arm64 supports different execution modes depending on the availability of certain CPU features, namely, the Virtualization Host Extensions (VHE) (ARMv8.1 and later). - "Android 13 virtualization lets [Pixel >= 6] run Windows 11, Linux distributions" (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692 It's faster to keep a minimal container hosting VM updated. So, podman-machine for Android in Termux might help solve for development UX on Android (and e.g. Android Studio on Android). podman-machine: https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-machine.1.html https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/markdown/podman-machine.1.h...

llm_trw 2y ago
Wait so you're telling me I can run podman on android?
- westurner 2y ago
  Looks like it's almost possible to run podman-machine on Android; and it's already possible to manually create your qcow for the qemu on Android and then run containers in that VM: https://github.com/cyberkernelofficial/docker-in-termux https://github.com/cyberkernelofficial/docker-in-termux