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That's irrelevant. Give me the total price, so I know how much something will cost. I don't care what percentage of it goes where. I only care about easily eval

That's irrelevant. Give me the total price, so I know how much something will cost. I don't care what percentage of it goes where. I only care about easily evaluating whether something is worth the price. Seriously. I don't care if the total price consists of 100% tax or 0% tax. I care only what it is. I don't ask to know how much you pay the cleaners, how much it costs to operate the pool, how much corporate profit you're booking, or how much the CFO is embezzling. The amount of tax is equally useless to me. I care what it costs me.

sebastiennight 2y ago
Looks like I'm not the only European that has seen a price tag of $9.50 on a product I wanted, only to find out that the $10 bill in my pocket was only two thirds of the amount needed! Look at us poor Europeans with our metric-system money-math
- chowells 2y ago
  I'm American, actually. I've just managed not to have my brain poisoned by Libertarianism. (The capital L sort.)
- dambi0 2y ago
  Was the markup just sales tax or did it include tips or extra fees? A 35% plus sales tax seems awfully high where in the US was it?
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    A ~10% sales tax is normal, and that will bring $9.50 over the $10 limit.
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tgma 2y ago
> The amount of tax is equally useless to me. Not if you are voting someone in a political office in the next election.
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Then you can look up how much the tax is when you are making your voting decision. This isn’t secret information.
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    The government routinely hides what you're paying in taxes. Case in point - the so-called "Employer's Contribution" to your social security taxes. There's no such thing. That comes out of your pocket, too. This is because employers have no interest in what your paycheck amount is. They care about "total compensation", which is what it costs the employer to employ you. Seattle added some "payroll taxes" and successfully sold the fiction that it was the businesses paying it. The businesses did indeed write the check, but it was the employee's money.
    - taylorius 2y ago
      Indeed - UK the same. The government makes so much hay out of persuading the electorate that businesses are somehow entirely separate from them.
    - razakel 2y ago
      Do you really think people don't know that the tax deductions on their payslip are actually their money?
      - WalterBright 2y ago
        The "Employer's Contribution" is not listed as a deduction on the payslip.
      - tgma 2y ago

sebastiennight 2y ago

Looks like I'm not the only European that has seen a price tag of $9.50 on a product I wanted, only to find out that the $10 bill in my pocket was only two thirds of the amount needed! Look at us poor Europeans with our metric-system money-math

chowells 2y ago
I'm American, actually. I've just managed not to have my brain poisoned by Libertarianism. (The capital L sort.)
dambi0 2y ago
Was the markup just sales tax or did it include tips or extra fees? A 35% plus sales tax seems awfully high where in the US was it?
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  A ~10% sales tax is normal, and that will bring $9.50 over the $10 limit.
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tgma 2y ago

> The amount of tax is equally useless to me. Not if you are voting someone in a political office in the next election.

amanaplanacanal 2y ago
Then you can look up how much the tax is when you are making your voting decision. This isn’t secret information.
- WalterBright 2y ago
  The government routinely hides what you're paying in taxes. Case in point - the so-called "Employer's Contribution" to your social security taxes. There's no such thing. That comes out of your pocket, too. This is because employers have no interest in what your paycheck amount is. They care about "total compensation", which is what it costs the employer to employ you. Seattle added some "payroll taxes" and successfully sold the fiction that it was the businesses paying it. The businesses did indeed write the check, but it was the employee's money.
  - taylorius 2y ago
    Indeed - UK the same. The government makes so much hay out of persuading the electorate that businesses are somehow entirely separate from them.
  - razakel 2y ago
    Do you really think people don't know that the tax deductions on their payslip are actually their money?
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      The "Employer's Contribution" is not listed as a deduction on the payslip.
    - tgma 2y ago