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I don't get why they'd do it. What's the advantage to OpenAI of giving away their core product for free? On their own app and website they can upsell you the P

I don't get why they'd do it. What's the advantage to OpenAI of giving away their core product for free? On their own app and website they can upsell you the Pro version. But integrating with Siri for free kind of sounds like paying an artist in 'exposure'. That's their core work, why give it for free?

Legend2440 2y ago
My guess: either the reports are wrong or there's some other part of the deal we don't know about. OpenAI isn't run by idiots, they wouldn't make a billion-dollar deal that didn't benefit them.
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- OrigamiPastrami 2y ago
  > OpenAI isn't run by idiots All of the management drama in the past year would suggest otherwise. Sometimes people we think are smart turn out to not always be so smart.
cinntaile 2y ago
Perhaps they're betting on Apple not being able to outcompete them. When it is well entrenched in the Apple ecosystem it'll be time to start charging.
- dread6 2y ago
  It’s not like Apple hasn’t done this before with services it doesn’t think are ready to release. The original iPhone shipped with Google maps and they still pay Apple to use search. Apple will eventually replace it with something home grown. Maybe OpenAI got a good deal.
karunamurti 2y ago
It's not free, it's the battle for market dominance. That's why everybody else launched early even it's buggy. That's why Meta is "open sourcing" Llama.
sqeaky 2y ago
> I don't get why they'd do it. What's the advantage to OpenAI of giving away their core product for free? No one else can provide AI web services while the leader gives it away for free. They can corner or at least consolidate the market then monetize later. We have seen this kind of loss leading many times with groups like Uber and Facebook. It is a risky strategy for OpenAI and might not work for the company, but for the founders they just need to make it look good for a few quarters and they can cash out when they want or stick around if it does work.
gmerc 2y ago
Because Meta deployed to every phone in the planet turning the ocean blood red. It wasn’t their choice but as a growth company they’d be toast without continued user growth and Meta cut them off a the knees at any price pint above 0

Legend2440 2y ago

My guess: either the reports are wrong or there's some other part of the deal we don't know about. OpenAI isn't run by idiots, they wouldn't make a billion-dollar deal that didn't benefit them.

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OrigamiPastrami 2y ago
> OpenAI isn't run by idiots All of the management drama in the past year would suggest otherwise. Sometimes people we think are smart turn out to not always be so smart.

cinntaile 2y ago

Perhaps they're betting on Apple not being able to outcompete them. When it is well entrenched in the Apple ecosystem it'll be time to start charging.

dread6 2y ago
It’s not like Apple hasn’t done this before with services it doesn’t think are ready to release. The original iPhone shipped with Google maps and they still pay Apple to use search. Apple will eventually replace it with something home grown. Maybe OpenAI got a good deal.

karunamurti 2y ago

It's not free, it's the battle for market dominance. That's why everybody else launched early even it's buggy. That's why Meta is "open sourcing" Llama.

sqeaky 2y ago

> I don't get why they'd do it. What's the advantage to OpenAI of giving away their core product for free? No one else can provide AI web services while the leader gives it away for free. They can corner or at least consolidate the market then monetize later. We have seen this kind of loss leading many times with groups like Uber and Facebook. It is a risky strategy for OpenAI and might not work for the company, but for the founders they just need to make it look good for a few quarters and they can cash out when they want or stick around if it does work.

gmerc 2y ago

Because Meta deployed to every phone in the planet turning the ocean blood red. It wasn’t their choice but as a growth company they’d be toast without continued user growth and Meta cut them off a the knees at any price pint above 0