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And in 5 years, or at most 10, the tories will be back in and destroy that future plan We had a future plan, it was called hs2. They were far to slow getting t

by chgs 2y ago

And in 5 years, or at most 10, the tories will be back in and destroy that future plan We had a future plan, it was called hs2. They were far to slow getting the diggers out, so it was cancelled for spite.

panick21_ 2y ago
Great. Why not just nuke the whole country then. The Tories are against the project, lets just do nothing. Helping trans people, why bother the tories are against it. Repair schools, why bother? Tories will reverse it. This is fucking insane. How are British people all such pesimists. HS2 is literally being built. There are tunnels already there. The digger are out in force already. That exactly why Phase 1 wasnt cancled. And if Labor took their finger out of their assholes they would get to a point where digger were out on Phase 2 and then the Tories wouldnt cancle that. And maybe at some point HS2 actually is operational and people will see that it is nice and cancling the rest of it would piss people off. If your strategy is 'lets do nothing we are gone lose the next election anyway' then you should just give up. Winning 3 elections in a row is possible ither parties have done it. The Tories are in a terrible situation, that wont be easy to come back from. Now is the time to be bold.
- IlllIIl 2y ago
  > Helping trans people, why bother the tories are against it. Depends what you mean by "help". There's already a big enough problem with males using female spaces, why make this even worse for women and girls? And for minors, the Cass Review made it clear the evidence isn't there to favour giving gender non-conforming kids drugs to block their puberty. > Repair schools, why bother? The RAAC problem? Already being funded. Department for Education started doing this a few months ago and the new government are continuing the work.
  - panick21_ 2y ago
    > Depends what you mean by "help". blablabla right wing/TURF propaganda. > And for minors, the Cass Review No it didn't, its a report many people disagree including many medical organization disagree with. And anyway even if the Cass Review was true, that is not at all indicative that the Toris are not anti-Trans people. The report was weaponized as political tool. > Already being funded. Ahh see what my point is then?
    - IlllIIl 2y ago
      > blablabla Low intelligence reactive response. Would you like to try again with something more rational? > No it didn't, its a report many people disagree including many medical organization disagree with. I've yet to see a substantive critique of the Review that challenges its key points. So far it's just been ideological disagreement. > Ahh see what my point is then? No, because the schools with this issue (assuming that's what you were referring to) are actually being repaired.
      - panick21_ 2y ago
        Clearly my point was the tories being against something is no reason not to do something. Tories not being for something and maybe reversing it in the future is no reason not to do something. And im not gone have a debate about trans stuff on HN in a train thread. Specially because you brought up a report that didn't have anything to do with the point I made about the tories.
      - silver_silver 2y ago
        > There's already a big enough problem with males using female spaces Back it up with some numbers, and then let’s see how many of the perpetrators identify as trans.
  - seethedeaduu 2y ago
    Yet another inactive throwaway terf account
- chgs 2y ago
  Being bold does not mean talking about what to do from now to 2050, it means digging. Now. But every armchair expert with a crayon has their preferred solution to rail. Is hs2 perfect? No Is it better than nothing? Yes.

by chgs 2y ago

panick21_ 2y ago

Great. Why not just nuke the whole country then. The Tories are against the project, lets just do nothing. Helping trans people, why bother the tories are against it. Repair schools, why bother? Tories will reverse it. This is fucking insane. How are British people all such pesimists. HS2 is literally being built. There are tunnels already there. The digger are out in force already. That exactly why Phase 1 wasnt cancled. And if Labor took their finger out of their assholes they would get to a point where digger were out on Phase 2 and then the Tories wouldnt cancle that. And maybe at some point HS2 actually is operational and people will see that it is nice and cancling the rest of it would piss people off. If your strategy is 'lets do nothing we are gone lose the next election anyway' then you should just give up. Winning 3 elections in a row is possible ither parties have done it. The Tories are in a terrible situation, that wont be easy to come back from. Now is the time to be bold.

IlllIIl 2y ago
> Helping trans people, why bother the tories are against it. Depends what you mean by "help". There's already a big enough problem with males using female spaces, why make this even worse for women and girls? And for minors, the Cass Review made it clear the evidence isn't there to favour giving gender non-conforming kids drugs to block their puberty. > Repair schools, why bother? The RAAC problem? Already being funded. Department for Education started doing this a few months ago and the new government are continuing the work.
- panick21_ 2y ago
  > Depends what you mean by "help". blablabla right wing/TURF propaganda. > And for minors, the Cass Review No it didn't, its a report many people disagree including many medical organization disagree with. And anyway even if the Cass Review was true, that is not at all indicative that the Toris are not anti-Trans people. The report was weaponized as political tool. > Already being funded. Ahh see what my point is then?
  - IlllIIl 2y ago
    > blablabla Low intelligence reactive response. Would you like to try again with something more rational? > No it didn't, its a report many people disagree including many medical organization disagree with. I've yet to see a substantive critique of the Review that challenges its key points. So far it's just been ideological disagreement. > Ahh see what my point is then? No, because the schools with this issue (assuming that's what you were referring to) are actually being repaired.
    - panick21_ 2y ago
      Clearly my point was the tories being against something is no reason not to do something. Tories not being for something and maybe reversing it in the future is no reason not to do something. And im not gone have a debate about trans stuff on HN in a train thread. Specially because you brought up a report that didn't have anything to do with the point I made about the tories.
    - silver_silver 2y ago
      > There's already a big enough problem with males using female spaces Back it up with some numbers, and then let’s see how many of the perpetrators identify as trans.
- seethedeaduu 2y ago
  Yet another inactive throwaway terf account
chgs 2y ago
Being bold does not mean talking about what to do from now to 2050, it means digging. Now. But every armchair expert with a crayon has their preferred solution to rail. Is hs2 perfect? No Is it better than nothing? Yes.