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I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned, the initial change to a water gun was just as stupid and damaging as this one. My point is just that ch

by xg15 2y ago

I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned, the initial change to a water gun was just as stupid and damaging as this one. My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage.

JohnFen 2y ago
I agree. One of the reasons why I hesitate to use emojis is that there isn't enough standardization of what they look like. I've seen texts I've written that include them on other devices and have been pretty dismayed that that even relatively minor visual differences can make a huge difference in the meaning I intended vs the meaning that was actually received. The water pistol/gun thing is this taken to an extreme. The initial change was bad because it introduced a huge amount of uncertainty in meaning. The change back is bad for exactly the same reason.
- PostOnce 2y ago
  In my experience, the water pistol was still used to denote violence, it was just dressed up to somehow make big tech feel less culpable for violent(ly emotional) social media.
  - JohnFen 2y ago
    As with all emojis, what they mean depends on the social group using them. In my social group, the gun version was never used for anything. When it became a water pistol, though, it started to get used to indicate a certain sort of playfulness.
anonfordays 2y ago
>My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage That's just like, your opinion man! Some of us view it as the Internet healing.
- AlexeyBelov 2y ago
  Fresh anonymous accounts?
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    You lost? You respond to the wrong person?
    - AlexeyBelov 2y ago
      No. Quoting: > Some of us Who is "us"? I said "fresh anonymous accounts" because there's a problem with such on this website. Certain ideas are way more likely with those.
      - anonfordays 2y ago
        >Who is "us"? I said "fresh anonymous accounts" Nonsensical since my account is not a "fresh anonymous account". Fresh accounts are colored green. >because there's a problem with such on this website. What's the problem? Wrongthink? >Certain ideas are way more likely with those. "Truth is treason in the empire of lies."
superkuh 2y ago
You're assuming everyone is using the same version of unicode and the same fonts. Even this premise isn't true. For example, for me, it never changed because I do most of my typing/etc on an older system without modern unicode extensions post-v6. It was and is always a mess. There's no stability like you say. But if we want to measure something objective: the majority of unicode versions have been the firearm, not the water pistol.
- philistine 2y ago
  > the majority of unicode versions Objective, but deeply flawed. Most people around the world are running code updated past a version released in 2018.
sharpshadow 2y ago
I’m my opinion a finger pistol would be appropriate.

by xg15 2y ago

JohnFen 2y ago

I agree. One of the reasons why I hesitate to use emojis is that there isn't enough standardization of what they look like. I've seen texts I've written that include them on other devices and have been pretty dismayed that that even relatively minor visual differences can make a huge difference in the meaning I intended vs the meaning that was actually received. The water pistol/gun thing is this taken to an extreme. The initial change was bad because it introduced a huge amount of uncertainty in meaning. The change back is bad for exactly the same reason.

PostOnce 2y ago
In my experience, the water pistol was still used to denote violence, it was just dressed up to somehow make big tech feel less culpable for violent(ly emotional) social media.
- JohnFen 2y ago
  As with all emojis, what they mean depends on the social group using them. In my social group, the gun version was never used for anything. When it became a water pistol, though, it started to get used to indicate a certain sort of playfulness.

anonfordays 2y ago

>My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage That's just like, your opinion man! Some of us view it as the Internet healing.

AlexeyBelov 2y ago
Fresh anonymous accounts?
- anonfordays 2y ago
  You lost? You respond to the wrong person?
  - AlexeyBelov 2y ago
    No. Quoting: > Some of us Who is "us"? I said "fresh anonymous accounts" because there's a problem with such on this website. Certain ideas are way more likely with those.
    - anonfordays 2y ago
      >Who is "us"? I said "fresh anonymous accounts" Nonsensical since my account is not a "fresh anonymous account". Fresh accounts are colored green. >because there's a problem with such on this website. What's the problem? Wrongthink? >Certain ideas are way more likely with those. "Truth is treason in the empire of lies."

superkuh 2y ago

You're assuming everyone is using the same version of unicode and the same fonts. Even this premise isn't true. For example, for me, it never changed because I do most of my typing/etc on an older system without modern unicode extensions post-v6. It was and is always a mess. There's no stability like you say. But if we want to measure something objective: the majority of unicode versions have been the firearm, not the water pistol.

philistine 2y ago
> the majority of unicode versions Objective, but deeply flawed. Most people around the world are running code updated past a version released in 2018.

sharpshadow 2y ago

I’m my opinion a finger pistol would be appropriate.