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> Usually people on the spectrum are not aware of their own behavior's effects on others That sounds exaggerated at best. People on the spectrum might not be e

> Usually people on the spectrum are not aware of their own behavior's effects on others That sounds exaggerated at best. People on the spectrum might not be emotionally aware of their behaviours effect on others, but they're intellectually / logically aware of it. > by their definition, a "smart jerk" is aware their behavior is obnoxious and aggressive. Does intentionality change anything? Working with a "jerk" is a terrible experience whether the jerk consciously decides to be a jerk or he/she can't help it / can't tell.

JohnMakin 2y ago
> That sounds exaggerated at best. People on the spectrum might not be emotionally aware of their behaviours effect on others, but they're intellectually / logically aware of it. Based on my own extensive experience of living on the spectrum and years of participating in support groups, I would say this is absolutely untrue or at best extremely pedantic - the end effect is the same.
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  GP clearly fails the empathy test when the subject has a different neurological matrix to their own. I wonder if with this, they will attempt to correct that effect now that they've been made aware of it. Edit: given the downvote, I assume not.
Yawrehto 2y ago
> intellectually/logically aware of it Are we? Patterns are always inherently vague. The sequence '3,5,7,_' is a clear example, but even something clear-cut, like '1,2,4,8,16,_' could end in any number; it's possible for it to be the sequence 'Joe's favorite numbers, by year', the next number being 3, as for it to be, say, powers of two. As such, it's possible that behavior others interpret as 'jerky' is an autistic person seeing pattern A in the data where everyone else sees pattern B.[1] >Does intentionality change anything? One would think so. If someone is unintentionally behaving like a jerk, that can be changed in theory by informing them, kindly, of that. If someone is intentionally behaving like a jerk, good luck with that. (Besides, if it doesn't, manslaughter and murder are indistinguishable, and one would think there is a difference between a carefully planned and calculated murder and you getting killed after a driver accidentally hits you.) [1] This idea stolen from a paper I read, "Living With Autism: Quus-ing in a Plus-ers World". The author uploaded a preprint to Dropbox, which sadly seems to be the only copy available if you don't subscribe to the journal Res Philosophica: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0skr5orj9l1ra4n4p85li/Living-with-Autism-Quus-ing-in-a-Plus-ers-World.pdf?rlkey=kzz3vxqy5cbixxpmox16hzyaj&e=2&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0skr5orj9l1ra4n4p85li/Living-....

JohnMakin 2y ago

> That sounds exaggerated at best. People on the spectrum might not be emotionally aware of their behaviours effect on others, but they're intellectually / logically aware of it. Based on my own extensive experience of living on the spectrum and years of participating in support groups, I would say this is absolutely untrue or at best extremely pedantic - the end effect is the same.

cassianoleal 2y ago
GP clearly fails the empathy test when the subject has a different neurological matrix to their own. I wonder if with this, they will attempt to correct that effect now that they've been made aware of it. Edit: given the downvote, I assume not.

Yawrehto 2y ago

> intellectually/logically aware of it Are we? Patterns are always inherently vague. The sequence '3,5,7,_' is a clear example, but even something clear-cut, like '1,2,4,8,16,_' could end in any number; it's possible for it to be the sequence 'Joe's favorite numbers, by year', the next number being 3, as for it to be, say, powers of two. As such, it's possible that behavior others interpret as 'jerky' is an autistic person seeing pattern A in the data where everyone else sees pattern B.[1] >Does intentionality change anything? One would think so. If someone is unintentionally behaving like a jerk, that can be changed in theory by informing them, kindly, of that. If someone is intentionally behaving like a jerk, good luck with that. (Besides, if it doesn't, manslaughter and murder are indistinguishable, and one would think there is a difference between a carefully planned and calculated murder and you getting killed after a driver accidentally hits you.) [1] This idea stolen from a paper I read, "Living With Autism: Quus-ing in a Plus-ers World". The author uploaded a preprint to Dropbox, which sadly seems to be the only copy available if you don't subscribe to the journal Res Philosophica: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0skr5orj9l1ra4n4p85li/Living-with-Autism-Quus-ing-in-a-Plus-ers-World.pdf?rlkey=kzz3vxqy5cbixxpmox16hzyaj&e=2&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0skr5orj9l1ra4n4p85li/Living-....