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Besides Tuxedo, do any vendors sell AMD Linux laptops with 96+ GB of RAM?

dflock 2y ago
FrameWork looks like they only go up to 64GB: https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop16-diy-amd-7040?tab=specs https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop16-diy-amd-7040?tab=...
- jsheard 2y ago
  It would probably be much cheaper to buy a Framework without RAM and then install 96GB yourself anyway, even if they did offer a 96GB option. It looks like they charge roughly the same amount for 2x32GB as it costs to buy 2x48GB DDR5 SODIMMs at retail.
- p_l 2y ago
  the CPU in framework 16" will happily run 2x48GB SODIMMs.
- COGlory 2y ago
  There are working 96 GB kits. Check the Framework forum and also reddit.
sandreas 2y ago
Notebook RAM is about to change. Maybe it is worth waiting a bit... https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-p1-gen-7-is-the-worlds-first-laptop-to-sport-lpcamm2-memory https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-p1-gen-...
zorgmonkey 2y ago
People have tested the 96GB DRR5 SODIMM kit and reported it to work with framework AMD laptop (framework lets you pick none for RAM, so you won't be paying RAM you won't use). Also as far as I know no one makes DDR5 SODIMM's with >48GB per stick.
- p_l 2y ago
  Phoenix APUs work just fine with 48GB SODIMMs (I have AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS with 16GB soldered and 48GB on a stick, outside of NUMA weirdness it's fine)
dijit 2y ago
ugh, I hate to be this guy, but could you possibly use off-device resources? There’s a tonne of benefits to that approach, cooling, battery life and performance among them- and the ability to run tasks while your laptop is asleep. I understand not wanting to own multiple devices, or cope with the power draw of an always on machine- but if you truly need such resources you will end up better off (even in the short term) with a dual system setup.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  Latency
  - dijit 2y ago
    Jetbrains Gateway and VSCode remote render glyphs locally and I doubt you would be able to notice the latency on execution (ie: running your program and compiling it). For ssh there’s mosh. I’d buy “having to transfer files” more than latency, realistically. Thanks for commenting though.
smilliken 2y ago
I'm typing this on a 96GB RAM Framework 16. It's a nice machine, I recommend it.
jandrese 2y ago
Sometimes I think if you need 128GB of RAM for your application then maybe it would make sense to build a tower/rack server and remote into that with your laptop. Often, but not always, big RAM requirements like that also involve big CPU or disk requirements that would be impractical in a laptop form factor.
- sqeaky 2y ago
  Is 128gb so much? My last workstation (not a laptop) had a 5950x and 128gb of DDR4 and that RAM is like 4 years old now. I am not saying you will have it in an ultrabook form factor, but I had 32gb of ram in sandy bridge laptop (intel core i7 2700 ?) and 64 not that much later. That was like 10+ years ago. Those were desktop replacement and thicker style laptops, but not exactly unreasonable equipment.
  - bigstrat2003 2y ago
    Yes, 128 GB of memory is a shitload.
  - bastard_op 2y ago
    I use a lenovo laptop, a t15g2 because of 4x dimm slots that let me fit 128gb of ram, and yes, I tend to use that even under linux. I tend to do work and personal business across this device, which includes full separate firefox profiles for each, usually 4-5, and it's not uncommon to see it or chrome/chromium actually using 60-70gb, not just reserved, of ram alone each connected to gapps, teams/orfice365, whatever needed for work. Throw in almost always using a windoze vm for windoze things for another 8gb, at times other vm's using 4-8gb doing various things for testing, libreoffice with 20 complex spreadsheets, steam games, normal use really, all adds up to a lot of at minimum reserved memory far exceeding physical, at times things ballooning within that, and thus at times getting cranky to still oom occasionally. I rather wonder who actually uses boxes with only 8gb of ram some still ship with.
    - kayodelycaon 2y ago
      > I rather wonder who actually uses boxes with only 8gb of ram some still ship with. Everyone else? :) Joking aside, the majority of people buy the MacBook Air, mostly with the minimum spec. Apple is expensive. If I didn't have to run docker or didn't store media locally, I could very easily use one.

FrameWork looks like they only go up to 64GB: https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop16-diy-amd-7040?tab=specs https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop16-diy-amd-7040?tab=...

jsheard 2y ago
It would probably be much cheaper to buy a Framework without RAM and then install 96GB yourself anyway, even if they did offer a 96GB option. It looks like they charge roughly the same amount for 2x32GB as it costs to buy 2x48GB DDR5 SODIMMs at retail.
p_l 2y ago
the CPU in framework 16" will happily run 2x48GB SODIMMs.
COGlory 2y ago
There are working 96 GB kits. Check the Framework forum and also reddit.

sandreas 2y ago

Notebook RAM is about to change. Maybe it is worth waiting a bit... https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-p1-gen-7-is-the-worlds-first-laptop-to-sport-lpcamm2-memory https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-p1-gen-...

zorgmonkey 2y ago

People have tested the 96GB DRR5 SODIMM kit and reported it to work with framework AMD laptop (framework lets you pick none for RAM, so you won't be paying RAM you won't use). Also as far as I know no one makes DDR5 SODIMM's with >48GB per stick.

p_l 2y ago
Phoenix APUs work just fine with 48GB SODIMMs (I have AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS with 16GB soldered and 48GB on a stick, outside of NUMA weirdness it's fine)

dijit 2y ago

ugh, I hate to be this guy, but could you possibly use off-device resources? There’s a tonne of benefits to that approach, cooling, battery life and performance among them- and the ability to run tasks while your laptop is asleep. I understand not wanting to own multiple devices, or cope with the power draw of an always on machine- but if you truly need such resources you will end up better off (even in the short term) with a dual system setup.

TiredOfLife 2y ago
Latency
- dijit 2y ago
  Jetbrains Gateway and VSCode remote render glyphs locally and I doubt you would be able to notice the latency on execution (ie: running your program and compiling it). For ssh there’s mosh. I’d buy “having to transfer files” more than latency, realistically. Thanks for commenting though.

smilliken 2y ago

I'm typing this on a 96GB RAM Framework 16. It's a nice machine, I recommend it.

jandrese 2y ago

Sometimes I think if you need 128GB of RAM for your application then maybe it would make sense to build a tower/rack server and remote into that with your laptop. Often, but not always, big RAM requirements like that also involve big CPU or disk requirements that would be impractical in a laptop form factor.

sqeaky 2y ago
Is 128gb so much? My last workstation (not a laptop) had a 5950x and 128gb of DDR4 and that RAM is like 4 years old now. I am not saying you will have it in an ultrabook form factor, but I had 32gb of ram in sandy bridge laptop (intel core i7 2700 ?) and 64 not that much later. That was like 10+ years ago. Those were desktop replacement and thicker style laptops, but not exactly unreasonable equipment.
- bigstrat2003 2y ago
  Yes, 128 GB of memory is a shitload.
- bastard_op 2y ago
  I use a lenovo laptop, a t15g2 because of 4x dimm slots that let me fit 128gb of ram, and yes, I tend to use that even under linux. I tend to do work and personal business across this device, which includes full separate firefox profiles for each, usually 4-5, and it's not uncommon to see it or chrome/chromium actually using 60-70gb, not just reserved, of ram alone each connected to gapps, teams/orfice365, whatever needed for work. Throw in almost always using a windoze vm for windoze things for another 8gb, at times other vm's using 4-8gb doing various things for testing, libreoffice with 20 complex spreadsheets, steam games, normal use really, all adds up to a lot of at minimum reserved memory far exceeding physical, at times things ballooning within that, and thus at times getting cranky to still oom occasionally. I rather wonder who actually uses boxes with only 8gb of ram some still ship with.
  - kayodelycaon 2y ago
    > I rather wonder who actually uses boxes with only 8gb of ram some still ship with. Everyone else? :) Joking aside, the majority of people buy the MacBook Air, mostly with the minimum spec. Apple is expensive. If I didn't have to run docker or didn't store media locally, I could very easily use one.