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There's a difference between "sucking up" and being polite/courteous and respectful. For me, arrogance has always been a bit of a trigger. I can work with mos

There's a difference between "sucking up" and being polite/courteous and respectful. For me, arrogance has always been a bit of a trigger. I can work with most people, but when someone is both arrogant and less than competent it irks me to no end. My advice is try to always assume the best possible interpretation of any given person's motives in a workplace. Try to be friendly.

steveBK123 2y ago
> arrogance has always been a bit of a trigger. I can work with most people, but when someone is both arrogant and less than competent it irks me to no end I think this is a common trigger for a lot of technically inclined people, myself included. In those cases I generally try to focus on acceptable outcomes more than "being right". And, importantly, not focussing as much on proving the other guy wrong (which is not quite the same as proving yourself right). Having a track record of delivery without being seen as the sore thumbs that sticks out goes a long way.
- Joel_Mckay 2y ago
  There are different management styles, and each have their own trade-offs. Some people don't see the big picture, and get mired in personal conflicts. Generally, when it is your budgets being spent on payroll the perspectives on jerky behavior shifts a little. =3
chasd00 2y ago
I have zero tolerance for an arrogant manager/Sr. X dressing down a more junior resource willing and eager to learn and get better. I have a reputation for patience, compassion, and a calming effect on clients and team except in this case. I could probably handle it better but one thing about putting someone on a cross for all to see is they're on a cross for all to see.
apwell23 2y ago
> Try to be friendly. I am already friendly. I am not convinced that merely being friendly will get you to your VPs 'inner circle'.
- tracker1 2y ago
  If your goal is to get into an executive's inner circle, that's a purely political move and will take playing politics... unless you're already a direct report for your current position.
  - apwell23 2y ago
    > your goal is to get into an executive's inner circle Yea you need to be a known entity to a VP in my company to get promoted beyond senior engineer. Yes my main goal is to make most money.

steveBK123 2y ago

> arrogance has always been a bit of a trigger. I can work with most people, but when someone is both arrogant and less than competent it irks me to no end I think this is a common trigger for a lot of technically inclined people, myself included. In those cases I generally try to focus on acceptable outcomes more than "being right". And, importantly, not focussing as much on proving the other guy wrong (which is not quite the same as proving yourself right). Having a track record of delivery without being seen as the sore thumbs that sticks out goes a long way.

Joel_Mckay 2y ago
There are different management styles, and each have their own trade-offs. Some people don't see the big picture, and get mired in personal conflicts. Generally, when it is your budgets being spent on payroll the perspectives on jerky behavior shifts a little. =3

chasd00 2y ago

I have zero tolerance for an arrogant manager/Sr. X dressing down a more junior resource willing and eager to learn and get better. I have a reputation for patience, compassion, and a calming effect on clients and team except in this case. I could probably handle it better but one thing about putting someone on a cross for all to see is they're on a cross for all to see.

apwell23 2y ago

> Try to be friendly. I am already friendly. I am not convinced that merely being friendly will get you to your VPs 'inner circle'.

tracker1 2y ago
If your goal is to get into an executive's inner circle, that's a purely political move and will take playing politics... unless you're already a direct report for your current position.
- apwell23 2y ago
  > your goal is to get into an executive's inner circle Yea you need to be a known entity to a VP in my company to get promoted beyond senior engineer. Yes my main goal is to make most money.