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I'm really unsure if it's a good idea given the current geopolitics. Open-Source Code in the past was fantastic because the West had a monopoly on CPUs and com
by maxdo 2y ago
I'm really unsure if it's a good idea given the current geopolitics.
Open-Source Code in the past was fantastic because the West had a monopoly on CPUs and computers. Sharing and contributing was amazing while ensured that tyrants couldn't use this tech to harm people simply because they don't have a hardware to run.
But now, things are different. China is advancing in chip technology, and Russia is using open-source AI to harm people on the scale today, with auto-targeting drones being just the start. Red sea conflict etc.
And somehow, Zuckerberg keeps finding ways to mess up people's lives, despite having the best intentions.
Right now you can build a semi-autonomous drone with AI to kill people for ~$500-700. The western world will still use safe and secure commercial models. While new axis of evil will use models based on Meta or any other open source to do whatever harm they can imagine with not a hint of control.
This particular model. Fine-tune it to develop a nuclear bomb using all possible research that level of government can get on the scale. Killing drone swarms etc. Once the knowledge got public these models can be a base model to get expert-level knowledge to anyone who wants it, uncensored. Especially if you are government that wants to destroy a peaceful order for whatever reason.
- rmbyrro 2y agoYou think Russia and China wouldn't be able to steal any closed model for a couple million dollars?
- that_guy_iain 2y agoWouldn’t even need to pay to steal it. FAANG have been shown to be hacked by state actors. China has some of the best hackers in the world.
- maxdo 2y agostealing a model and building the entire AI community is a very very big difference : Fine tune, update, Run model without very deep domain knowledge, that's what we receive as an outcome. If you are a software engineer and you steal a model in some close format of Open AI , you will not get lots of benefits even if you understand the format of that model, it's a complex beast by all means. This is a playbook how anyone can run it. So yeah, big corp is evil from one side, but oh well, think of North Korea, Russia etc level of evilness and what they can do whit that.
- talldayo 2y ago> think of North Korea, Russia etc level of evilness and what they can do whit that. To date, I have not seen any "evil" applications of AI, let alone dangerous or even useful ones. If Russia or North Korea get their hands on a modern AI model, the CIA will get their "Red Mercury" call: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury
- rmbyrro 2y agoIf you think Chinese engineers can't deploy and productize (even weaponize) LLM models in production with the same ease as Western engineers, I think you're talking about last century China.
- adhamsalama 2y agoSo, only the west should be able to use AI to kill people because they're the good guys?
- AlexandrB 2y agoThis argument reminds me a lot of restrictions on exporting encryption in the 90s.
- wavemode 2y agoYou're vastly overestimating the capability of LLMs to create new knowledge not already contained in their training material.
- keepswag 2y agoIt was not amazing that the West had monopolies because they are the ones using AI and advancing AI tech to harm people. Im not sure what youre getting at here with that comment https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24151437/ai-israel-gaza-war-hamas-artificial-intelligence https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24151437/ai-israel-gaza-w... https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/ https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-cal... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai...