It's obvious that there are good and bad engineers everywhere, and we consider most applicants crap regardless of where they come from. The average developer i

It's obvious that there are good and bad engineers everywhere, and we consider most applicants crap regardless of where they come from. The average developer in the world struggles at being proficient at its craft and can, at best, poorly glue some APIs in an unreadable mess of code. That's true globally. And that's true regardless of the candidate having graduated in CS/SE or not. In fact we have been so far been happier with self-taught devs rather than people who went into programming just to find a job and never really learned much besides trying to pass the exams. But Indian/Middle Eastern developers tend to be, on average, even worse. Indian news sites have different articles about that and tie it to the level of education, not just university one. But on top of that, we couldn't match culturally too. As a German/Dutch company my client is all about straightforwardness and no bullshit, whereas devs from those regions focused on impress and not create issues and would hardly raise their hands in case something got wrong. They would consistently do A' when asked for A. Even very simple task like add a translation key or a tracking event took eternities. Obviously there was much we could do to onboard them better, and we tried, but it was always difficult and though, in the end these devs tended to add more work in supervision than what they would accomplish but we simply have no time/budget/patience. Again, I want to reiterate, that's the experience we have and what we feel about devs from any part of the world, but statistically it was worse in India/Middle East (again, probably for cultural/education reasons). It's like if you get burned twice/thrice by a car brand, even if stats tell you it's an okay brand, you're not gonna buy it again. Even other stuff like payments and contracts was complicated. And them being up late at night (for them) when we were still in the morning/early afternoon, was an issue. They were obviously tired and in their circadian low. And no, we don't hire from any other time zone than Central Europe +-2.