There was a recent interview with Ballmer on The Dispatch Podcast[0]. I've been longtime casual Ballmer-hater because of Microsoft's treatment of Linux, but at

There was a recent interview with Ballmer on The Dispatch Podcast[0]. I've been longtime casual Ballmer-hater because of Microsoft's treatment of Linux, but at least for 30 minutes, found him to be a genial, thoughtful, and interesting bazillionaire. [0] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-data-we-trust-interview-steve-ballmer/id1493229344?i=1000659238920 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-data-we-trust-inter...