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Not sure how widely known this is, but recent studies have shown great, sustained results for type 2 through dietary interventions using wholegrain oat (as it c

by jhoho 2y ago

Not sure how widely known this is, but recent studies have shown great, sustained results for type 2 through dietary interventions using wholegrain oat (as it contains beta-glucan): https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.1055/a-0677-6068 https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.10... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214799317300073 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221479931...

gitfan86 2y ago
Type 2 has had a high correlation with obesity and high carb diets.
- Engineering-MD 2y ago
  But interestingly also a very high genetic factor with 90% of identical twins both having T2DM (which is greater than that of type 1 which if I remember correctly is 40%)
  - telgareith 2y ago
    Sounds like Nature vs nurture to me. Until there is a proposed genetic marker... it's just another item confusing the public about correlation vs causation.
  - CRConrad 2y ago
    > very high genetic factor with 90% of identical twins both having T2DM Or both not having it, I hope?
telgareith 2y ago
Looked at the first paper. I have significant concerns that, frankly, I didn't finish reading. 1. Small sample size, <20 iirc. 2. No control group at all. (There should have been a group under the same requirements and same diet) 3. They picked 'uncontrolled', and from my own experience that term is synonymous with "unmanaged." Which, translates to "patient is not compliant with treatment." As such, feeding them exclusively a vague "diabetic diet" coupled with the 5 day hospital stay- well its enough to cloud the results enough that no conclusions can be made. 4. Cont. Because people rarely intentionally make themselves feel like crap- which you will with uncontrolled type II. The hospital stay, its exposure to allegedly* diabetic friendly foods, and subsequent time for the subjects to realize "I feel better, I like this!" Basically invalidates the entire paper. * allegedly, because I just got out of a hospital with a fantastic cafeteria. But, the "diabetic menu" had way to many items with high glycemic indexes, and nothing to maintain a steady sugar level until the next meal. Finally: ''HbA1c was lower four weeks after the oatmeal intervention.'' Two days of fasting won't change an A1c value.
- jhoho 2y ago
  There are several more studies and dietary recommendations regarding oat, just search Google Scholar and similar.
mvidal01 2y ago
I'm skeptical of any claim that says consuming carbs is helpful when it comes to type 2 diabetes.

by jhoho 2y ago

gitfan86 2y ago

Type 2 has had a high correlation with obesity and high carb diets.

Engineering-MD 2y ago
But interestingly also a very high genetic factor with 90% of identical twins both having T2DM (which is greater than that of type 1 which if I remember correctly is 40%)
- telgareith 2y ago
  Sounds like Nature vs nurture to me. Until there is a proposed genetic marker... it's just another item confusing the public about correlation vs causation.
- CRConrad 2y ago
  > very high genetic factor with 90% of identical twins both having T2DM Or both not having it, I hope?

telgareith 2y ago

Looked at the first paper. I have significant concerns that, frankly, I didn't finish reading. 1. Small sample size, <20 iirc. 2. No control group at all. (There should have been a group under the same requirements and same diet) 3. They picked 'uncontrolled', and from my own experience that term is synonymous with "unmanaged." Which, translates to "patient is not compliant with treatment." As such, feeding them exclusively a vague "diabetic diet" coupled with the 5 day hospital stay- well its enough to cloud the results enough that no conclusions can be made. 4. Cont. Because people rarely intentionally make themselves feel like crap- which you will with uncontrolled type II. The hospital stay, its exposure to allegedly* diabetic friendly foods, and subsequent time for the subjects to realize "I feel better, I like this!" Basically invalidates the entire paper. * allegedly, because I just got out of a hospital with a fantastic cafeteria. But, the "diabetic menu" had way to many items with high glycemic indexes, and nothing to maintain a steady sugar level until the next meal. Finally: ''HbA1c was lower four weeks after the oatmeal intervention.'' Two days of fasting won't change an A1c value.

jhoho 2y ago
There are several more studies and dietary recommendations regarding oat, just search Google Scholar and similar.

mvidal01 2y ago

I'm skeptical of any claim that says consuming carbs is helpful when it comes to type 2 diabetes.