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Very dubious website. The battery doesn't appear to be available for purchase, so who is this customer who, in 2022, has been using it for an entire year? The

Very dubious website. The battery doesn't appear to be available for purchase, so who is this customer who, in 2022, has been using it for an entire year? The marketing claims also are ridiculous. Zero evidence that your battery are safer than Bosch battery packs. I have zero doubt that Bosch has done very rigorous testing on their batteries. Have you? Apparently the cells are switchable, so there could be different types, capacity and chemistries involved, have you done testing regarding that?

BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
It does seem like their batteries may be available for sale in europe? https://www.daurema-batteries.com/en/products/gouach-batterie-velo-36v-460wh https://www.daurema-batteries.com/en/products/gouach-batteri... And this twitter post is from early 2022 https://twitter.com/Gouachbatteries/status/1514989287141486594 https://twitter.com/Gouachbatteries/status/15149892871414865...
- constantcrying 2y ago
  The alleged customer talks specifically about the "infinite Battery", which is promoted on that website. Neither the Battery on the shop nor in the Tweet are that Battery, the "infinite Battery" is clearly a different product and clearly not a product you can buy right now. If the "infinite Battery" is "launching soon", why was it available to "People" in 2021. Another comment mentioned that in 2023 he replaced the Cells, the same website claims the cells need to be replaced every 3 years, so when did "Victor B." receive his Battery? I see no way in which these comments are from real people who bought that Battery with their own money and are giving their own thoughts on the product. "Fake endorsements" are a very common tactic on scam sites, even including them makes me not to want to buy anything from such a website. This is also ignoring their fire safety claims, which I think are very dubious. Specifically because they mention a particular rival brand, which they claim is significantly more dangerous than theirs. With no evidence substantiating that.
  - BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
    You're right. This does make the whole thing look very scammy. And the complete lack of any pricing information anywhere makes it all that much worse.
    - vallettea 2y ago
      you got us on this. These testimonials are free adaptation of what our beta testers told us. We had only about two dozens of them since 2021. However, we do have thousands of batteries on the field. Has you can see on this post it's the previous version of the pack that is being produced: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/getapony_d%C3%A9couvrez-les-coulisses-de-la-fabrication-activity-7163951087773798400-aLMB?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop https://www.linkedin.com/posts/getapony_d%C3%A9couvrez-les-c...
  - oulipo 2y ago
    Hi! Sorry for the confusion! The customer comments are real, and came from our initial battery prototypes which we sold to people (by converting their bikes in our shop) We did mention Infinite Battery because it’s the new name we’re giving to the product (which is now the « v3 » of that battery) But you are right that they are confusing we will remove those We are indeed a legit company! You can see that we’ve fundraised two years ago https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ And our batteries are running every day on shared mobility bikes!
oulipo 2y ago
Sorry for the confusion! We are a legit company and have been operating for more than three years, with B2B clients using our batteries for about 2 years! We’ve even fundraise two years ago https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ The current post is because we are selling a new battery focused on e-bikes with a fireproof casing and easy to repair design We’re also opening it to anyone who wants to install it on an ebike, rather than just B2B!
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vallettea 2y ago
hello, yes we have been selling batteries for a while but not really to the consumers more to fleets of vehicles. Concerning the safety, Bosch batteries are among the best but if one of your cell does a thermal runaway, you're screwed, the plastic casing will just burn. Our aluminum casing withstands the complete burn down of the pack without letting one flame out. Checkout the test: https://docs.gouach.com/fireproof-casing https://docs.gouach.com/fireproof-casing

BugsJustFindMe 2y ago

It does seem like their batteries may be available for sale in europe? https://www.daurema-batteries.com/en/products/gouach-batterie-velo-36v-460wh https://www.daurema-batteries.com/en/products/gouach-batteri... And this twitter post is from early 2022 https://twitter.com/Gouachbatteries/status/1514989287141486594 https://twitter.com/Gouachbatteries/status/15149892871414865...

constantcrying 2y ago
The alleged customer talks specifically about the "infinite Battery", which is promoted on that website. Neither the Battery on the shop nor in the Tweet are that Battery, the "infinite Battery" is clearly a different product and clearly not a product you can buy right now. If the "infinite Battery" is "launching soon", why was it available to "People" in 2021. Another comment mentioned that in 2023 he replaced the Cells, the same website claims the cells need to be replaced every 3 years, so when did "Victor B." receive his Battery? I see no way in which these comments are from real people who bought that Battery with their own money and are giving their own thoughts on the product. "Fake endorsements" are a very common tactic on scam sites, even including them makes me not to want to buy anything from such a website. This is also ignoring their fire safety claims, which I think are very dubious. Specifically because they mention a particular rival brand, which they claim is significantly more dangerous than theirs. With no evidence substantiating that.
- BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
  You're right. This does make the whole thing look very scammy. And the complete lack of any pricing information anywhere makes it all that much worse.
  - vallettea 2y ago
    you got us on this. These testimonials are free adaptation of what our beta testers told us. We had only about two dozens of them since 2021. However, we do have thousands of batteries on the field. Has you can see on this post it's the previous version of the pack that is being produced: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/getapony_d%C3%A9couvrez-les-coulisses-de-la-fabrication-activity-7163951087773798400-aLMB?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop https://www.linkedin.com/posts/getapony_d%C3%A9couvrez-les-c...
- oulipo 2y ago
  Hi! Sorry for the confusion! The customer comments are real, and came from our initial battery prototypes which we sold to people (by converting their bikes in our shop) We did mention Infinite Battery because it’s the new name we’re giving to the product (which is now the « v3 » of that battery) But you are right that they are confusing we will remove those We are indeed a legit company! You can see that we’ve fundraised two years ago https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ And our batteries are running every day on shared mobility bikes!

oulipo 2y ago

Sorry for the confusion! We are a legit company and have been operating for more than three years, with B2B clients using our batteries for about 2 years! We’ve even fundraise two years ago https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ https://www.breega.com/gouach-secures-e3-3m-seed-funding/ The current post is because we are selling a new battery focused on e-bikes with a fireproof casing and easy to repair design We’re also opening it to anyone who wants to install it on an ebike, rather than just B2B!

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vallettea 2y ago

hello, yes we have been selling batteries for a while but not really to the consumers more to fleets of vehicles. Concerning the safety, Bosch batteries are among the best but if one of your cell does a thermal runaway, you're screwed, the plastic casing will just burn. Our aluminum casing withstands the complete burn down of the pack without letting one flame out. Checkout the test: https://docs.gouach.com/fireproof-casing https://docs.gouach.com/fireproof-casing