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It’s not insane if your desired outcome is to stir up hatred against immigrants, and to use them as a political pawn for electioneering and personal gain. Ship

It’s not insane if your desired outcome is to stir up hatred against immigrants, and to use them as a political pawn for electioneering and personal gain. Ship ‘em in, simultaneously cut services, policing, remove initiatives aimed to aid integration, and all the while loot the country while blaming the “swarm” - or was it “tidal wave”? I forget. “Stop the boats!”, they howl, while opening the floodgates. I mean, net immigration absolutely soared under the Tories, while they incessantly railed against immigration in the media - it’s hard to see any other explanation.

inglor_cz 2y ago
"It’s not insane if your desired outcome is to stir up hatred against immigrants" That sort-of violates the principle that you don't attribute to malice what can be explained by plain incompetence. People who really dislike immigrants won't vote Tory anyway, Reform UK is there to catch their vote (and sink the Tories in the process of doing so). Most of the immigration influx is legal anyway, not boat travellers.
- grues-dinner 2y ago
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- p_l 2y ago
  You're assuming that it's malice, when it can be interpreted as incompetence. Incompetence in not figuring out the long term consequences of campaign-time actions. So you campaign with hatred against immigrants because it's cheap. You campaign about how they use the dimnishing services. You campaing on cutting benefits to pander to "fiscal conservatives" and business that would like lower costs. You open immigration to pander to business wanting cheaper workforce. In isolation, with exception of first, none of them are much about malice and all can seem logical for the "goal of winning is the most important thing". Even the first is more malice from pandering to whatever emotion gets you direct results, without necessarily thinking anything about actually being malicious towards immigrants. Taken as a whole, looking at the whole system, it's a clusterfuck.
  - sdkdfjdlkdsj 2y ago
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inglor_cz 2y ago

"It’s not insane if your desired outcome is to stir up hatred against immigrants" That sort-of violates the principle that you don't attribute to malice what can be explained by plain incompetence. People who really dislike immigrants won't vote Tory anyway, Reform UK is there to catch their vote (and sink the Tories in the process of doing so). Most of the immigration influx is legal anyway, not boat travellers.

grues-dinner 2y ago
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p_l 2y ago
You're assuming that it's malice, when it can be interpreted as incompetence. Incompetence in not figuring out the long term consequences of campaign-time actions. So you campaign with hatred against immigrants because it's cheap. You campaign about how they use the dimnishing services. You campaing on cutting benefits to pander to "fiscal conservatives" and business that would like lower costs. You open immigration to pander to business wanting cheaper workforce. In isolation, with exception of first, none of them are much about malice and all can seem logical for the "goal of winning is the most important thing". Even the first is more malice from pandering to whatever emotion gets you direct results, without necessarily thinking anything about actually being malicious towards immigrants. Taken as a whole, looking at the whole system, it's a clusterfuck.
- sdkdfjdlkdsj 2y ago
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