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New gTLD Applied-For Strings
- TomGullen 14y agoI love the long ones like '.BARCLAYCARD', '.BLOOMINGDALES' pretty funny. Looks like a corporate suit decision to buy those. Not sure what the other part of the domain will be for these as well: "Visit www.bloomingdales!" Lots of confusion on the way! I'm not too impressed with ones such as '.CANCERRESEARCH' paid for by the 'Australian Cancer Research Foundation'. What a waste of money.
- freehunter 14y agoI could see pay.barclaycard or apply.barclaycard. shop.bloomingdales and fashion.bloomingdales would work as well. donate.cancerresearch would work, but I'll grant you the money could be better spent. Basically what these new TLDs are for is to eliminate the .com in shop.bloomingdales.com.
- TomGullen 14y agoI'd like to here the Australian Cancer Research Foundation's reasoning behind registering it.
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoI had not thought of that. A current .com site with a fair number of sub domains could probably justify this. But that is a pretty pricey way to shave 4 chars off your url.
- makecheck 14y agoYeesh...in case there was any doubt beforehand that this is a terrible idea, the initial list is now proof. They have taken something that has a valid technical reason to exist and turned it into a cesspool. Hopefully those in control of infrastructure take a stand and simply reject these "domains" entirely. Shouldn't be hard to set up sanity-restoring filters...let us please just pretend these are spam domains and never acknowledge their existence. Ironically anyone vain enough to reserve ".<whatever>" is surely ALSO going to keep a death grip on "<whatever>.com" so this will do nothing to improve the size of the name space.
- tucson 14y ago> this will do nothing to improve the size of the name space It opens new options for "local" addresses: biketour.berlin biketour.paris antics.london etc wether this will stick is another story.
- jerf 14y agobiketour.berlin.ge biketour.paris.fr antics.london.uk Nope, there's room for all of those things in the current scheme. Might I add that none of those cities are the only city to have that name, and that the country part carries real information?
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoI was gonna say communities like Catalan speakers (.cat) have a good excuse, but then I remembered that ICANN already gave these people their own TLDs.
- Someone 14y ago:-) Your post nicely shows why having a top level domain 'Berlin' could be good idea: without it you would not be able to find those German bike tours. Germany has top level domain de for 'Deutschland'; ge = Georgia (the country)
- jerf 14y agoFudge, that was just a typo. I did mean de. Too late now. (On Dvorak, d is on h and g is on u, but that's still a bad one.)
- goatforce5 14y ago> Ironically anyone vain enough to reserve ".<whatever>" is surely ALSO going to keep a death grip on "<whatever>.com" Monter (the job people) and Monster (the expensive audio product people) are both going for .monster How do they resolve that? Toss a coin? Auction it?
- damian2000 14y agoOMFG what the hell is with all the real email addresses listed - its a spammers paradise. You'd think they'd be all throwaways but there's a lot of real ones (eg. banks, communications) and also noticed a smattering of gov domains.
- pferde 14y agoYeah, that's what I noticed as first thing when opening that page. They're not even obscured in the html code. I thought ICANN were professionals.
- ceejayoz 14y agoProfessionals know that "obscured in the HTML code" means nothing against today's collection bots.
- pferde 14y agoOf course, best thing would be not including the addresses at all (that's what professionals would do), but if they deemed it necessary, "obscuring" the addresses would at least stop the most rudimentary harvesters. Also, why the downvotes? Have I offended anyone?
- peteretep 14y agoIf you think spammers have trouble getting their hands on real email addresses, you don't really understand spam.
- AshleysBrain 14y agoWhat happens when several companies want the same one? There's a whole bunch of companies going for .app, so who gets which domains?
- alan_cx 14y agoI want to know how a doughnut company could get .world
- adrianb 14y agoIt's not a doughnut company, it's a VC-founded internet startup!
- deleted 14y ago[deleted]
- aeden 14y agoAnd even if it were a doughnut company they'd still have every right to apply for it. No one has gotten anything yet. :-)
- uxp 14y agodonuts.co is a domain registrar (and/or holding company). They're probably a broker for a large number of other companies, because various other @donut.co email addresses for a multitude of other custom TLDs are present on this list, with the email address username generally matching up to a slugified version of the applicant name.
- aeden 14y agoSee section "1.1.2.10 String Contention" of the applicant guidebook. In the guidebook it ultimately may come down to "community resolution" or auctioning.
- alexandros 14y agowhat, nobody for .js?
- fijter 14y agono 2-letter domains allowed, they are reserved for countries ;)
- AshleysBrain 14y agoSo who wants to register a new country called... JavaScriptLand?
- davidradcliffe 14y agohttps://github.com/ozten/TLD.js https://github.com/ozten/TLD.js
- kibwen 14y agoI'm curious why some of those rows are colored blue (IDN, KIDS, UMMAH). I also wonder what effect this will have on domain squatting (probably very little, all told). Anyone have any favorites? I see .DOT (dot.dot, anyone?), .WINNERS, .SUCKS (more desirable than .SEX), .NINJA, .MATRIX (registered by L'Oreal rather than HP, sadly), .IRA (financial planning and domestic terrorism in one convenient location), and absolutely no sign of .CAT (what do you think the internet is for, anyway? (No, wait, .PORN is right there.)).
- seiji 14y ago.cat is catalonia/cataluña, Spain. I only know that because public bikes here have https://www.bicing.cat/ https://www.bicing.cat/ plastered on them.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoNot just Catalonia, it's the Catalan-speaking community in general.
- AshleysBrain 14y agoSomeone's going for .fail!
- deleted 14y ago[deleted]
- adrianb 14y ago.cat is already a (r)ccTLD for the Catalan community.
- rufibarbatus 14y ago.cat is registered by Catalan organisation puntCAT. According to Wikipedia, its intended use is to promote the Catalan language and culture, these pages notwithstanding: http://nyan.cat/ http://nyan.cat/ http://lol.cat/ http://lol.cat/ http://crypto.cat/ http://crypto.cat/ (hey, at least it has a Catalan version) puntCAT can be found at: http://www.puntcat.cat/ http://www.puntcat.cat/
- jnorthrop 14y agoWith a quick look there are some interesting things. Doesn't look like too many consumer companies came out to play. One of note is that Coca-Cola did not bid on .coke nor did P&G bid on anything.
- riffraff 14y agocar companies seem to be on board, I can see brands for ford, general motors, fiat, toyota, audi, nissan. No french though, quick, let's grab .renault!
- freehunter 14y agoIf you bought .renault you'd just be setting yourself up for hardware failures and slow performance :)
- Spooky23 14y agoCar companies were late to the internet game the first time, and probably don't want to be left out again. Some car companies paid through the nose to domain squatters, others were unsuccessful (ie. nissan.com)
- djbender 14y agoHoly crap. Just when you have faith in the system...
- icebraining 14y agoWhy? The guy just registered the domain of his surname (he's called Uzi Nissan).
- deleted 14y ago[deleted]
- seiji 14y agoGoogle wants: .ads, .and, .android, .app, .are, .baby, .blog, .boo, .book, .buy, .cal, .car (no .cdr?), .channel, .chrome, .cloud, .corp (great way to snoop on poorly configured intranets), .cpa, .dad, .day, .dclk, .dds (New: Google Dentist!), .dev, .diy, .docs, .dog, .dot, .drive, .earth, .eat, .esq, .est, .family, .film, .fly, .foo, .free, .fun, .fyi, .game, .gbiz, .gle, .gmail, .gmbh (really?), .goo, .goog, .google, .guge (what?), .hangout, .here, .home, .how, .inc (really?), .ing, .kid, .live, .llc (really?), .llp, .lol (wtf?), .love (...), .mail (ambitious much?), .map, .mba (you can have them all), .med, .meme, .mom (awww), .moto, .mov (quicktime extension!), .movie, .music, .new ('nother file extension), .nexus, .page (web or larry?), .pet, .phd (duh), .play, .plus, .prod, .prof, .rsvp, .search, .shop, .show, .site, .soy, .spot, .srl, .store, .talk, .team, .tech, .tour, .tube, .vip, .web, .wow, .you, .youtube, .zip (file extension), .みんな, .グーグル, .谷歌 What the holy hell? Did google just have an employee suggestion box and they applied for all submitted names? Apple wants: .apple Microsoft wants: .azure, .bing, .docs, .hotmail, .live, .microsoft, .office, .skydrive, .skype, .windows, .xbox Microsoft is just defending their own brands. Only two applicants for .sex (and one for .sexy) Amazon wants: .amazon, .app, .audible, .author, .aws, .book, .bot, .box, .buy, .call, .circle, .cloud, .coupon, .deal, .dev (nice way to snoop on poorly configured corporate dns too. in competition with google), .drive, .fast, .fire, .free, .game, .got, .group, .hot, .imdb, .jot, .joy (smells like zappos), .kids, .kindle, .like (only applicant), .mail, .map, .mobile, .moi, .movie, .music, .news (google didn't apply for .news), .now, .pay (dangerous), .pin, .play, .prime, .read, .room, .safe, .save, .search (woo), .secure, .shop, .show, .silk, .smile (aww), .song, .spot, .store, .talk, .tunes (ha!), .tushu, .video, .wanggou, .wow, .yamaxun, .you, .yun, .zappos, .zero, .アマゾン, .ストア, .セール, .ファッション, .ポイント, .亚马逊, .家電, .書籍, .通販, .食品 Amazon is part brand defense and part what-the-hell-are-you-doing too. There will be no winners here. The best thing they can do now is cancel the idea of corporate TLD ownership.
- exDM69 14y agoThere are many companies applying for .app TLD. Edit: Google is one of them under an alias. What was noteworthy was that many companies seem to be formed for this purpose only. There's "DotApp Inc", ".app registry inc" and a bunch of other names like that.
- bgraves 14y agoTop 10 by Number of Applicants: APP 13 INC 11 HOME 11 ART 10 SHOP 9 BOOK 9 BLOG 9 LLC 9 DESIGN 8 MOVIE 8 MUSIC 8
- simias 14y agoHow much do those cost again? A nice cash grab by the ICANN I presume.
- omh 14y agoAt $108k per domain, that's about $200 million for ICANN.
- ramanujam 14y agoIt is actually $185,000 for the evaluation fee. There is an annual fee ($25000 or a % of each domain registered) and other dispute resolution fees. Section 2.2 on the FAQ page http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/customer-service/faqs/faqs-en http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/customer-service/faq...
- simonbrown 14y agoThis article suggests that ICANN is selling them at cost! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13835997 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13835997
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- grose 14y agoThe most contentious domains are .app (13 applications), .inc (11), .home (11), and .art (10), followed by .shop, .blog, and .book, and .llc at 9. Rough list here: https://gist.github.com/2923898 https://gist.github.com/2923898
- smoody 14y agoYeah, the number of .art applications took me by surprise.
- ramanujam 14y agoInteresting to note that Google has applied for 101 TLDs (search for @google.com in that list) including a lot of generic words like car,book, dad, dog, eat, family, film, fly. While some words are related to Google's business many aren't. A little over $21 MM[1] in application and first year fees. $185,000 for the application fee and $25000 for the annual fee. [1] http://mashable.com/2011/06/20/icann-top-level-domains/ http://mashable.com/2011/06/20/icann-top-level-domains/
- fijter 14y agoThe Dutch government wants ".overheidnl" (govermentnl), not only it's one ugly gTLD, they already have overheid.nl! What a waste of tax money...
- Karunamon 14y agoMan this is going to be a mess. Guess I'd better get used to the fact that the days of easily rememberable TLDs are gone.
- hangnail_lobby 14y agoThis is a complete and total mess. Worse, when registering with one of these corp tld operators, how much can you trust they'll be around in XX number of years to keep your domain name alive? Google will win big out of this, not because of the number of tld's they will own, but because the browser's address bar will become useless without a search engine. Good opportunity for next-gen domain name resolvers!
- netrus 14y agoThe list appears fear-driven to me. High probability the investment will not pay off, but everyone is afraid of not taking part in this historical moment that MIGHT change users' assumptions and behavior.
- andrewheins 14y agoIs there a default domain for these tlds? Let's take .home for example. How will this work when typing it into a browser? If you have my.home, it makes sense. If you type www.home, it really looks ugly, but I guess it works, and we've spent the past few years moving away from including "www" as a whole. Typing "com" into my url bar doesn't get me anywhere, so I'm assuming typing "home" won't either. If I bought "apple", is there going to be a conventional or canonical "default"? home.apple? I really find this confusing.
- jnorthrop 14y agoThere would be no default, just like there is no default for .com, .net or .org. These are top level domain namespaces. So in the case of .home. The registrar for that domain can sell my.home, your.home, newyork.home, etc. The equivalent for the .com domain would be my.com, your.com, newyork.com, etc. Make sense?
- sp332 14y agoYou mean is there a default host for these domains? I doubt it, that's not how domains work. These will be alongside .com .org .gov etc. It's a domain name, not a host name. Expecting to get somewhere when you type ".com" or ".home" into your address bar is like typing "192.168" and expecting to get a "default host" for your local network.
- andrewheins 14y agoAnd thus my question about a conventional default. It just seems to me that buying the gTLD will leave users fairly confused. If you want to access Apple (generically), users will still go to apple.com because even if they know that there's a .apple domain, what's the root host? My best guess is a conventional default emerges shortly.
- sp332 14y agoWell it's up to whoever runs the root DNS for the domain I guess. But I've never heard of a domain with a default. edit: oh never mind i'm being thick :) And this isn't necessarily about people wanting to find apple's main website. Apple would have control over all subdomains and hosts in the namespace. They could give a subdomain to every app in the app store. So if you want the Pandora app, you don't navigate to Pandora.com were you might see ads for other mobile devices. https://www.pandora.com/everywhere/mobile https://www.pandora.com/everywhere/mobile You would go to Pandora.apple and only see the iOS mobile app.
- ragmondo 14y agoIs it still to late to register .localhost ?!
- andyjohnson0 14y agoApparently nobody has applied for .localhost yet.
- adrianb 14y ago.localdomain would be better.
- andyjohnson0 14y agoAlso .local "Despite not being a valid top-level domain in the Internet, considerable DNS traffic that queries the local domain exists in the public Domain Name System.[1] In June 2009, the L root server received more than 400 such queries per second,[2] ranking 4th in DNS traffic of all TLDs after COM, ARPA, and NET." [1] Scary potential for mischief-making. Hopefully ICANN would reject applications for these domains, but I'm not sure I'd take that level of competence for granted. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local
- aeden 14y ago.local is already spelled out as a reserved word in the application guidebook.
- ricardobeat 14y ago.local is the default 'local domain' in most routers, it couldn't be used reliably as a tld. These queries are probably just routed by mistake/buggy software.
- aeden 14y agoYou'd be wasting your money as it is one of the exceptions listed a reserved word in the applicant guidebook.
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- twelvechairs 14y agoSo basically, we are creating a two-tier internet where people with money can pay a lot for nice names and others will be considered cheap for having a .com at the end? Way to go democratic internet.... I wonder if they actually stopped long enough to consider the actual pros and cons on this.
- AndrewDucker 14y agoThe people that own most of these tlds will then sell domains on to ordinary people. So give it time and you, too, can have a .fail domain.
- twelvechairs 14y agoPossibly. But say I'm starting a video-sharing website - I'm at a big competitive disadvantage when my customers need to type and remember an extra domain-name level compared to my competitors (who own '.video', '.movie', '.youtube', etc. while i might own '.bobsvideo.fail').
- AndrewDucker 14y agoExcept that, as discussed above, "youtube" by itself is not a valid host name. It would have to be "mysite.youtube" Still easier than you having "mysite.bobsvideo.fail" I agree, but frankly most people don't even find sites via the domain name. They'll google "Bobs Video" and see what comes up.
- zokier 14y agowhy wouldn't "youtube" be valid hostname?
- AndrewDucker 14y agoSame reason that "com" and "net" aren't. Root nodes aren't, from my understanding, valid names for machines. Edit: Seems I'm wrong. See discussion downthread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105707 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105707
- millerfung 14y agoCan you imagine what would all these look like in 5 years (even 2 maybe)? It is going to look messy! I mean I like the idea of it and surely it would looks elegant if it weren't abuse...but I think this is not happening.. People are pouring money into these TLD as well... Sad to say, but I see a totally different future, these are totally different to real estate, this is a digital world, maybe these .com, .app thing won't even needed, no address at all in the future, replace by something else, like on Facebook where you type say Dropbox, then suggested site just come out
- billpg 14y agoI think I may pre-emptively confgure my home DNS to NXDOMAIN all of these.
- brd 14y agoSince the very beginning this entire concept has seemed horribly misguided. I get that we need to expand the range of possible domain names but is this really the way to do it? It seems like 1 part extortion, 1 part destruction of a free internet, and 1 part orchestrated gold rush for squatters.
- ricardobeat 14y agoA great way to squeeze the last dollars out of domains, now that all are squatted. The application fees were $5k registration + $185k or $47k evaluation, so they collected something between $100 million and $366 million dollars, annual fees excluded. I can see two possible outcomes: 1. all conflicts are resolved by agreements/bidding, process goes smoothly. But usage nevers picks up, and in a years'time it's all money down the drain. 2. ICANN backpedals and decides to cancel this stupid idea, while deciding to (legally) keep the application fees. Fighting ensues and we get a new, better management organization. Or worse.
- nfomon 14y ago"now that all are squatted." I find lots of fine domain names for TLDs that aren't .com
- yuxt 14y agono .exe ?
- user24 14y agoI know! I see someone's taken .com already though!
- lifeformed 14y agohttp://virus.exe http://virus.exe seems totally legit.
- nfomon 14y agoI clicked it.
- luigi 14y agoBoth Amazon and Google applied for .dev. Sorry Pow users!
- djbender 14y agoDoesn't pow make changes to your local machine's routing such that .dev will always route to your local box? /clueless
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoLike .onion, this will could be grandfathered in and the application rejected.
- Karunamon 14y agoWas I the only one slightly tickled that the same company who registered .mormon also registered .porn?
- Kilimanjaro 14y agoVanity, my favorite sin. I can't imagine when people start registering their names: britney.spears, lady.gaga, kim.kardashian This will be a huge money making machine, retarded but huge.
- T-hawk 14y agoAnd the Kardashians can even split the cost three ways. But the Baldwin brothers could go four.
- mustpax 14y agoTop 20 most wanted TLDs: $ cut -d, -f1 < tld.csv | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -20 13 APP 11 INC 11 HOME 10 ART 9 SHOP 9 LLC 9 BOOK 9 BLOG 8 MUSIC 8 MOVIE 8 DESIGN 7 WEB 7 STORE 7 NEWS 7 MAIL 7 LTD 7 LOVE 7 HOTEL 7 CLOUD 6 [Many domains]
- djbender 14y agoWhat could possibly go wrong?
- lftl 14y ago.art struck me as odd. Is there that much commercial value in art online or is it so desirable for more sentimental reasons?
- nirvana 14y agoIt is a real shame there isn't an association of independant app developers that applied for the .app TLD. I am dubious about Amazon or Google owning it, as they may restrict it only to apps that are in their respective stores.
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoIf ICANN is unable to determine the clear winner on merits alone, the gTLD goes up for auction. What are the chances that an association of independant app developers would be able to outbid Amazon or Google anyway. Their only shot would be if ICANN decided they deserved it more and gave it to them without auction. That is a $200K gamble.
- amac 14y agoThis demonstrates the areas where you can make money online. It's not surprising that .app is the most in demand either, it's clear where the future money is in the Internet economy.
- gacba 14y agoFunniest bit about the .app: 13 applicants picked ".app", not a single one went for ".apps", the obvious second choice with no competition.
- djbender 14y agoCheck out Top Level Domain Holdings Limited's requests. Welcome to domain squatting 2.0.
- ohashi 14y agoThat's Mind+Machines, and yes, it's a mega-landgrab. That guy has been going on and on for years about how amazing this will be and how everyone wants it. I cite: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090923_61_businesses_tell_icann_new_top_level_domains_are_needed/ http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090923_61_businesses_tell_ic... It's a joke of a post of everyone who stands to make a pile of money saying there is community support for this.
- mc32 14y agoHow can they lump .goog and .aaa with the likes of .app and .mail. .goog and .aaa are not "generic" in any sense. I think they should at least re-categorize and call the .goog and .apples brandedTLDs
- notatoad 14y agoIt's nice to see that the australian cancer research society thought their $100k would be better spent on domain speculation than actually funding cancer research.
- salmanapk 14y agoDumb question and maybe off-topic but what happens to the $185,000 you pay for a gTLD? Does that go to charity or the US government keeps it or what?
- GoodIntentions 14y agoNissan Motor Corp is after ".nissan". I would be amused beyond words if Uzi Nissan/Nissan Computer Corp also applied for ".nissan". ( He's current owner of nissan.com and has had a long fight with Nissan over the domain name. )
- noolan 14y agoIf I had $185,000 sitting around I would apply for .tld. So many possibilities... meta.tld or address@domain.tld for starters
- seanconaty 14y agoPlease, if you don't like the idea of this, comment on https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/programfeedback/login https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/programfeedb... This would be all sorts of horrible if it passed. It's bad for security, it's bad for usability, it will probably break stuff, it's unfair. There is also no benefit to it.
- seanconaty 14y agoHere's what I wrote: Subject: Creates More Problems Than It Solves Feedback Submission Date:13 Jun 2012 at 17:44:48 UTC Feedback: ...and its only purpose is profit. 1. It's bad for security. This will make phishing a whole lot easier. 2. It's bad for usability. Humans have come to learn that .com (and its ilk) signifies a website address. With now unlimited TLDs the only way to identify a domain is by a solitary dot, if that. 3. It will probably break stuff. Many a software / regular expression out there assume that domains will end in a relatively small list of TLDs. The new domains will not work with this type of software. 4. There is no benefit. The benefits listed on this page http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/benefits-risks http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/benefits-risks all equate to selling more Internet real estate and profiteering for the sake of profiteering. ICANN is abusing its power.
- duskwuff 14y agoMy three personal least-favorites: .DOTAFRICA (what is this I don't even) .CASHBACKBONUS (by Discover Financial Services -- wtf?) .TRAVELERSINSURANCE, .NORTHLANDINSURANCE, and .NORTHWESTERNMUTUAL (three-way tie for the longest applications) And dishonorable mention to every company that's applying for their own business names and/or trademarks. Which is, by my best estimate, probably at least half of the total applications.
- chris123 14y ago"I can't say it any better than this: "Non .com extensions will leak traffic to the .com version of that domain name. Every business set up on a [non .com extension] domain will lose a proportion of their traffic to the dot com version of that domain name, although the amount of that leak will be difficult to predict. The leak occurs because customers/ potential customers will frequently recall the name of the site and add ‘.com’ almost instinctively, unless they recall that it is on a relatively unusual extension .net, .org etc. Inevitably, the more the [non .com extension] site is marketed, the more traffic is sent to the .com, however, the problem is that the .com domain may well resolve to a competing business’s website. Some businesses are willing to live with that loss (perhaps because the [non .com extension] is a relevant, memorable generic, for example) – for them the [non .com extension] is a viable option. However, without a compelling reason like the one mentioned above, I would argue that a business on a limited budget just cannot afford to develop a site using a [non .com extension] domain name. It is as simple as that." SOURCE: http://www.domaining.org.uk/2007/12/10/spectacular-net-or-a-so-so-com-which-should-you-chose-for-your-business/ http://www.domaining.org.uk/2007/12/10/spectacular-net-or-a-... HACKER NEWS THREAD FOR ABOVE LINK: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4108016 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4108016
- grandpoobah 14y agoHow will the chrome unibar distinguish between a search for the word "stupid" and an attempt to access http://stupid http://stupid ?