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So what filled the pizza niche in the Union? (for instance, here burritos are rare [and chimichangas rare^2], but for almost all the instances one would have e

So what filled the pizza niche in the Union? (for instance, here burritos are rare [and chimichangas rare^2], but for almost all the instances one would have eaten a burrito in the Old Country, here a döner serves) Time to watch a few movies with restaurant scenes to see what the students eat, I guess.

vinnyvichy 2y ago
Khachapuri? It's alluded to in the answers, but Khachapuri comes closest imho
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Makes sense; many take-away pizzerias here also sell the turkish variant (pide) of khachapuri. (Come to think of it, what about street food? I know kvass wagons were popular in summer, and there's a great drink machine scene in « Наваждение », but [apart from bologna(?) sandwiches at 90s discos] I'm blanking on food — maybe I should check train station scenes for aunties?) [No luck at the club scene in Courier (1986); IIUC the club only serves drinks and desserts like vermicelles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=2585s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=2585s (EDIT4: no, not marroni, Мороженое. My bad)] EDIT: I think I need to move my YT bubble back over to runet; atm it's refusing to give me the original clip for Желтые тюльпаны (which I recall had various slice-of-life scenes: going to the bank, making a phone call, etc.) and insists on delivering only the Pesnya-90 performance. EDIT2: there's a tablecloth-covered table in the background at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXc8A6MbYY&t=252s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXc8A6MbYY&t=252s so in principle (when the kitchen is open?) that cabaret serves food, but unfortunately nothing else in the clip indicates that 1991 russians survived on more than tobacco and alcohol... EDIT3: think I found the kind of food that the previous establishment would've served: see the table at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8T1h0ohcQ&t=29s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8T1h0ohcQ&t=29s ... but in this case the bread and meats are served separately; no clue as to any cheese. Note the Pepsi-Cola! (also: some kind of street food at 1:30?)
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    https://youtu.be/h9nhOEdXRfI https://youtu.be/h9nhOEdXRfI https://youtu.be/M0T1kxj5kjg?t=22s https://youtu.be/M0T1kxj5kjg?t=22s
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      I'd forgotten that business with Lydia's ice cream! (and sps for the clip as well) It turns out the oh-so-slavic фастфуд is a productive key word, which along with в СССР turns up all sorts of stuff, eg https://dzen.ru/a/ZMUdmvvciD8Z75RH https://dzen.ru/a/ZMUdmvvciD8Z75RH , http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-vo-vremena-sovetskogo-soyuza.html http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-... , and even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W5NJddmfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W5NJddmfM (25 min worth?) [and TIL those roosters were lollipops; what d'y'know... One of these days maybe I'll learn what one could buy with the 3 kopeck coins?]
      - vinnyvichy 2y ago
        https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw >http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-vo-vremena-sovetskogo-soyuza.html http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-... The algorithm there flashed me a macD clip of the Gorbachevian and it hit me like a flag pole why Pepsi was emblematic of the Yeltsinian. https://youtu.be/ckbfS99N6jY?t=2m14s https://youtu.be/ckbfS99N6jY?t=2m14s
        082349872349872 2y ago
        One of the small freedoms gained in leaving the Old Country is freedom from the "would you like fries with that" shiny happy service people smiles :-) EDIT: > https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw The street fishmonger at 3:20 explains Gazmanov's « ... тебя как рыбу к пиву подают. » Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE EDIT: I see Pugacheva has vocal credits for "The Irony of Fate"; that means the Pugachevous period spans from the Brezhnevian through the Putinian epochs...
- kdmtctl 2y ago
  Indeed. It was widespread by the "cooperative" movement and the first fast food was shashlyki (even before the fall) and khachapuri. South Caucasus people were the first who started with food and flower markets. So the cuisine.
- pimlottc 2y ago
  It's definitely as delicious as pizza, mmm...
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    I'm a big fan of raclette, which also falls into the "lots of melted cheese over starch" equivalence class.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Pirogi
daliusd 2y ago
It depends on country or region which was part of Soviet Union.
- aebtebeten 2y ago
  Good point. I guess I was implicitly thinking Moscow-area, but if you know what the answer might be for the Lietuvos Tarybų Socialistinė Respublika, now I'm curious about that, too...
  - daliusd 2y ago
    I was born in 1982 so it is like 7 years of Soviet Union of which majority I don’t remember. I think your question can be looked in two ways: * what cheap food people made instead of pizza? I think in Lithuania it is anything with meat and potato. In some occasions meat and dough (kibin might be more interesting case). My mother did pizza actually but it is not pizza in traditional sense as it was done with carrots and green peas. * what cheap street food was eaten instead of pizza. I don’t have idea here as I don’t remember street food at all. I remember we bought kvass in the street.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      ačiū!

vinnyvichy 2y ago

Khachapuri? It's alluded to in the answers, but Khachapuri comes closest imho

082349872349872 2y ago
Makes sense; many take-away pizzerias here also sell the turkish variant (pide) of khachapuri. (Come to think of it, what about street food? I know kvass wagons were popular in summer, and there's a great drink machine scene in « Наваждение », but [apart from bologna(?) sandwiches at 90s discos] I'm blanking on food — maybe I should check train station scenes for aunties?) [No luck at the club scene in Courier (1986); IIUC the club only serves drinks and desserts like vermicelles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=2585s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdlAgreRug&t=2585s (EDIT4: no, not marroni, Мороженое. My bad)] EDIT: I think I need to move my YT bubble back over to runet; atm it's refusing to give me the original clip for Желтые тюльпаны (which I recall had various slice-of-life scenes: going to the bank, making a phone call, etc.) and insists on delivering only the Pesnya-90 performance. EDIT2: there's a tablecloth-covered table in the background at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXc8A6MbYY&t=252s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXc8A6MbYY&t=252s so in principle (when the kitchen is open?) that cabaret serves food, but unfortunately nothing else in the clip indicates that 1991 russians survived on more than tobacco and alcohol... EDIT3: think I found the kind of food that the previous establishment would've served: see the table at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8T1h0ohcQ&t=29s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8T1h0ohcQ&t=29s ... but in this case the bread and meats are served separately; no clue as to any cheese. Note the Pepsi-Cola! (also: some kind of street food at 1:30?)
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  https://youtu.be/h9nhOEdXRfI https://youtu.be/h9nhOEdXRfI https://youtu.be/M0T1kxj5kjg?t=22s https://youtu.be/M0T1kxj5kjg?t=22s
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    I'd forgotten that business with Lydia's ice cream! (and sps for the clip as well) It turns out the oh-so-slavic фастфуд is a productive key word, which along with в СССР turns up all sorts of stuff, eg https://dzen.ru/a/ZMUdmvvciD8Z75RH https://dzen.ru/a/ZMUdmvvciD8Z75RH , http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-vo-vremena-sovetskogo-soyuza.html http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-... , and even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W5NJddmfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9W5NJddmfM (25 min worth?) [and TIL those roosters were lollipops; what d'y'know... One of these days maybe I'll learn what one could buy with the 3 kopeck coins?]
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw >http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-vo-vremena-sovetskogo-soyuza.html http://lozhka-povarezhka.ru/vsyo-o-ede/5-ulichnyh-fastfudov-... The algorithm there flashed me a macD clip of the Gorbachevian and it hit me like a flag pole why Pepsi was emblematic of the Yeltsinian. https://youtu.be/ckbfS99N6jY?t=2m14s https://youtu.be/ckbfS99N6jY?t=2m14s
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        One of the small freedoms gained in leaving the Old Country is freedom from the "would you like fries with that" shiny happy service people smiles :-) EDIT: > https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw https://youtu.be/N1jhynHVMSw The street fishmonger at 3:20 explains Gazmanov's « ... тебя как рыбу к пиву подают. » Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE EDIT: I see Pugacheva has vocal credits for "The Irony of Fate"; that means the Pugachevous period spans from the Brezhnevian through the Putinian epochs...
kdmtctl 2y ago
Indeed. It was widespread by the "cooperative" movement and the first fast food was shashlyki (even before the fall) and khachapuri. South Caucasus people were the first who started with food and flower markets. So the cuisine.
pimlottc 2y ago
It's definitely as delicious as pizza, mmm...
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  I'm a big fan of raclette, which also falls into the "lots of melted cheese over starch" equivalence class.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

Pirogi

daliusd 2y ago

It depends on country or region which was part of Soviet Union.

aebtebeten 2y ago
Good point. I guess I was implicitly thinking Moscow-area, but if you know what the answer might be for the Lietuvos Tarybų Socialistinė Respublika, now I'm curious about that, too...
- daliusd 2y ago
  I was born in 1982 so it is like 7 years of Soviet Union of which majority I don’t remember. I think your question can be looked in two ways: * what cheap food people made instead of pizza? I think in Lithuania it is anything with meat and potato. In some occasions meat and dough (kibin might be more interesting case). My mother did pizza actually but it is not pizza in traditional sense as it was done with carrots and green peas. * what cheap street food was eaten instead of pizza. I don’t have idea here as I don’t remember street food at all. I remember we bought kvass in the street.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    ačiū!