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While perhaps specifically Canada does not have this type of asset forfeiture, I’m not sure they’re a good example of financial liberty that we should aspire to

While perhaps specifically Canada does not have this type of asset forfeiture, I’m not sure they’re a good example of financial liberty that we should aspire to here in the US.

nullfrigid 2y ago
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soco 2y ago
So let me understand this please: Canada is bad because it doesn't have what the US doesn't have either but aspires to have?
- whacko_quacko 2y ago
  It's bad because they deem a protest a terrorist event and freeze your bank account if they found you donated. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-protest-finances.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-pro...
  - Teever 2y ago
    As a Canadian I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you what you know about Canada. Like what do you really know about Canada? Because I'm getting the same "Montreal is the capital of Canada" vibes that I got from an American tourist when I was a little kid visiting the same tourist town that they were on summer vacation. It astounds me how confidentially incorrect Americans (I'm assuming that you're American) are when it comes to their close neighbour. So please, tell me more about Canada.
    - mikestew 2y ago
      Are you refuting the NYT story, or do you just like playing trivia games?
      - Teever 2y ago
        Not refuting it at all, just find it hard to see the relevance to the thread. I would imagine that the funds that Canada froze in a unique situation are a rounding error compared to the funds some random US state seizes in a year. Whatever their flaws so many other countries including Canada are so much better at this thing than the United States.
        whacko_quacko 2y ago
        This is whataboutism. Both are bad, so where's your argument? And this is relevant precisely because it's an example that shows the lack of financial liberty, that you could fall prey to in Canada. I thought it's a fitting answer to the parent comment.
        Teever 2y ago
        No, its not whataboutism, because corruption in America is literally the subject that we're discussing. How many people were affected by this issue? Again, it's a rounding eror compared to the number of people who are affected the corrupt practice of civil forfeiture. These things are night and day different. A one off event compared to a systemic issue.
    - whacko_quacko 2y ago
      I'm not an American, and instead of asking an open-ended counter question you could try to address the issue Did they not freeze bank accounts of people donating to the freedom convoy? Please note that this is a question of facts and not opinions. It is also completely removed from whether you (or I for that matter) support this cause or find the means that they chose legitimate.
OutOfHere 2y ago
"What about all the bad things in Canada" Whataboutism is not a great argument. We should aspire to take the best features from each country, not to mirror any country exactly.
betepeppers 2y ago
Given the horrible wealth disparity in the US, I'd say it absolutely is. Or pretty much any other western country would do also.

While perhaps specifically Canada does not have this type of asset forfeiture, I’m not sure they’re a good example of financial liberty that we should aspire to here in the US.

nullfrigid 2y ago

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soco 2y ago

So let me understand this please: Canada is bad because it doesn't have what the US doesn't have either but aspires to have?

whacko_quacko 2y ago
It's bad because they deem a protest a terrorist event and freeze your bank account if they found you donated. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-protest-finances.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/world/americas/canada-pro...
- Teever 2y ago
  As a Canadian I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you what you know about Canada. Like what do you really know about Canada? Because I'm getting the same "Montreal is the capital of Canada" vibes that I got from an American tourist when I was a little kid visiting the same tourist town that they were on summer vacation. It astounds me how confidentially incorrect Americans (I'm assuming that you're American) are when it comes to their close neighbour. So please, tell me more about Canada.
  - mikestew 2y ago
    Are you refuting the NYT story, or do you just like playing trivia games?
    - Teever 2y ago
      Not refuting it at all, just find it hard to see the relevance to the thread. I would imagine that the funds that Canada froze in a unique situation are a rounding error compared to the funds some random US state seizes in a year. Whatever their flaws so many other countries including Canada are so much better at this thing than the United States.
      - whacko_quacko 2y ago
        This is whataboutism. Both are bad, so where's your argument? And this is relevant precisely because it's an example that shows the lack of financial liberty, that you could fall prey to in Canada. I thought it's a fitting answer to the parent comment.
        Teever 2y ago
        No, its not whataboutism, because corruption in America is literally the subject that we're discussing. How many people were affected by this issue? Again, it's a rounding eror compared to the number of people who are affected the corrupt practice of civil forfeiture. These things are night and day different. A one off event compared to a systemic issue.
  - whacko_quacko 2y ago
    I'm not an American, and instead of asking an open-ended counter question you could try to address the issue Did they not freeze bank accounts of people donating to the freedom convoy? Please note that this is a question of facts and not opinions. It is also completely removed from whether you (or I for that matter) support this cause or find the means that they chose legitimate.

OutOfHere 2y ago

"What about all the bad things in Canada" Whataboutism is not a great argument. We should aspire to take the best features from each country, not to mirror any country exactly.

betepeppers 2y ago

Given the horrible wealth disparity in the US, I'd say it absolutely is. Or pretty much any other western country would do also.