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> VTedit At Waikato university a student, Ivan Piacun, wrote "vted", also a set of macros for TECO, on the PDP-11/70. I would say it was what most people used
by brucehoult 2y ago
> VTedit
At Waikato university a student, Ivan Piacun, wrote "vted", also a set of macros for TECO, on the PDP-11/70. I would say it was what most people used until the switch to VAX.
I tracked Ivan down on LinkedIn a few months ago. He says when he wrote "vted" he had absolutely no knowledge of other similar efforts, or of either emacs or vi, both of which existed (on the other side of the world) a couple of years earlier.
Everyone worked in a silo in those days.
You might eventually see something in BYTE (though it focussed on microcomputers) or Dr Dobbs (ditto) or Wireless World. Or something might make it ono a DECUS tape. But mostly you were just completely isolated if you lived on an island in the South Pacific Ocean, as we did.
I was happy with EDT, never got to like TPU's "Eve", though I didn't use it for long because I graduated ...
... graduated to a company that used DG MV10000 with AOS/VS, which had an even worse clone of TECO called SPEED.
There must have been a better editor, though I think still a line editor, but I have absolutely no memory of what it was called or how it worked!! I remember having to use SPEED for some things, but not most of the time. Maybe on very large files.
I was writing programs in PL/I and also Postscript on that machine. I hooked the brand new Apple Laserwriter to the MV10000, something both DG and the Apple dealer said was impossible, and used it, at first, mostly to replace an HP pen plotter to make diagrams and graphs to physically paste into gaps left in hard copy "camera ready" output from an IBM DisplayWriter word processing system.
- ggm 2y agoEDT had rubber condom overlays for the Vt100 so you could know what numberpad key to use for magic edit, and the "gold" key which I thought was a superbad name for Meta.
- markc 2y agoI still have my cherished VT125 EDT rubber overlay from when I worked at DEC '82-'85. Great editor. And the amazing thing was that there could be 50 people time-sharing on a single 1 MIPS Vax 780, and EDT was very responsive, virtually no lag.
- cafard 2y agoIt seems to me that used SPEED in a complicated program + macro + dunno what to inspect system and error logs on AOS/VS. The full-screen editor was SED, which I remember as being a bit less odd than vi, but maybe because I encountered it first.
- brucehoult 2y agoYeah. I just found manuals for both of them! http://www.simulogics.com/archive/public/docs/dg/sw/os/aos/093-000249-02__SED_Text_Editor_Users_Manual_AOS_and_AOS-VS__1980-1984.pdf http://www.simulogics.com/archive/public/docs/dg/sw/os/aos/0... http://www.simulogics.com/archive/public/docs/dg/sw/os/aos/093-000197-03__SPEED_Text_Editor_Users_Manual_AOS_and_AOS-VS__1976-1980.pdf http://www.simulogics.com/archive/public/docs/dg/sw/os/aos/0... And dozens and dozens of other old DG manuals. And an online Nova simulator, and binaries for downloadable DG simulators apparently based on SimH (which I thought did PDP/ VAX).