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Subways can be non-rail, as seen with the Montreal subway, but subways are usually a type of rail transit. Also, once you read the article, you'll see that the

Subways can be non-rail, as seen with the Montreal subway, but subways are usually a type of rail transit. Also, once you read the article, you'll see that the author is referring to subways.

shiroiushi 2y ago
>Subways can be non-rail, as seen with the Montreal subway Yes, and it's terrible. The Montreal subway is by far the noisiest subway system I've ever used. Even standing on the platform is a terrible experience because it's so loud when the cars are moving.
- jessekv 2y ago
  How does the noise compare to the tube in London?
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    Sorry, I've never been there so I can't comment. But I thought London's system was a rail system; if that's the case, it should naturally be quieter.
    - bobthepanda 2y ago
      London's system is very old so basically it's loud because it's built with much tighter curves than a modern system would be built with today, plus there are few platform doors isolating noise away from people on the oldest lines.
      - shiroiushi 2y ago
        Oh, I see. That sounds like the Oedo line here in Tokyo: it has several very tight curves, so it's extremely loud inside when the train goes around those curves. But that's not really what I'm talking about with Montreal: in Montreal, the subway system is loud for the people standing inside the station. (The trains are noisy inside too, but that's just in addition.) Every time a train enters or leaves the station, it's deafeningly loud, because of the rubber ties. You'd think it shouldn't be this way (after all, cars have rubber tires and are very quiet at low speeds; it's only at freeway speeds that rubber tires get loud on cars and trucks), but it is. It seems to be caused by the trackways: the tires are constantly rubbing on the sides of the track, so the cars are very noisy any time they're in motion, and it's really miserable just standing on the platform.
  - lpribis 2y ago
    From my experience living in London, the tube is worse (at least the deep level lines which are much louder) but somewhat comparable to Montreal. Both seem to come in around 80dBA average, but some of the tube lines peak at 90 or 100+dBA.

Subways can be non-rail, as seen with the Montreal subway, but subways are usually a type of rail transit. Also, once you read the article, you'll see that the author is referring to subways.

shiroiushi 2y ago

>Subways can be non-rail, as seen with the Montreal subway Yes, and it's terrible. The Montreal subway is by far the noisiest subway system I've ever used. Even standing on the platform is a terrible experience because it's so loud when the cars are moving.

jessekv 2y ago
How does the noise compare to the tube in London?
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  Sorry, I've never been there so I can't comment. But I thought London's system was a rail system; if that's the case, it should naturally be quieter.
  - bobthepanda 2y ago
    London's system is very old so basically it's loud because it's built with much tighter curves than a modern system would be built with today, plus there are few platform doors isolating noise away from people on the oldest lines.
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      Oh, I see. That sounds like the Oedo line here in Tokyo: it has several very tight curves, so it's extremely loud inside when the train goes around those curves. But that's not really what I'm talking about with Montreal: in Montreal, the subway system is loud for the people standing inside the station. (The trains are noisy inside too, but that's just in addition.) Every time a train enters or leaves the station, it's deafeningly loud, because of the rubber ties. You'd think it shouldn't be this way (after all, cars have rubber tires and are very quiet at low speeds; it's only at freeway speeds that rubber tires get loud on cars and trucks), but it is. It seems to be caused by the trackways: the tires are constantly rubbing on the sides of the track, so the cars are very noisy any time they're in motion, and it's really miserable just standing on the platform.
- lpribis 2y ago
  From my experience living in London, the tube is worse (at least the deep level lines which are much louder) but somewhat comparable to Montreal. Both seem to come in around 80dBA average, but some of the tube lines peak at 90 or 100+dBA.