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> there's a large company with an almost identical name Are you suggesting that this wasn't intentional? The name is clearly a play on "zero shot" + "xerox"

by ot 2y ago

UncleOxidant 2y ago
I think they're suggesting that Xerox will likely sue them so might as well get ahead of that and change the name now.
- 8organicbits 2y ago
  Even if they don't sue, do you really want to deal with people getting confused and thinking you mean one of the many pre-existing OCR tools that Xerox produces? A search for "Zerox OCR" will lead to Xerox products, for example. Not worth the headache. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zerox+OCR https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zerox+OCR
themanmaran 2y ago
Yup definitely a play on the name. Also the idea of photocopying a page, since we do pdf => image => markdown. We're not planning to name a company after it or anything, just the OS tool. And if xerox sues I'm sure we could rename the repo lol.
- wewtyflakes 2y ago
  It still seems reasonable someone may be confused, especially since the one letter of the company name that was changed has identical pronunciation (x --> z). It is like offering "Phacebook" or "Netfliks" competitors, but even less obviously different.
  - qingcharles 2y ago
    Surprisingly, http://phacebook.com/ http://phacebook.com/ is for sale.
    - austinjp 2y ago
      From personal experience, I'd wager that anyone buying that domain will receive a letter from a Facebook lawyer pretty quickly.
- noleary 2y ago
  I would happily contribute to the legal defense fund.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  I was involved in a somewhat similar trademark issue once. I actually had a leg to stand on (my use was not infringing at all when I started using it), and I came out of it somewhat cash-positive, but I absolutely never want to go through anything like that ever again. > Yup definitely a play on the name. Also the idea of photocopying a page, But you? My God, man. With these words you have already doomed yourself. Best wishes.
  - neilv 2y ago
    > With these words you have already doomed yourself. At least they didn't say "xeroxing a page".
- haswell 2y ago
  If they sue, this comment will be used to make their case. I guess I just don’t understand - how are you proceeding as if this is an acceptable starting point? With all respect, I don’t think you’re taking this seriously, and it reflects poorly on the team building the tool. It looks like this is also a way to raise awareness for Omni AI? If so, I’ve gotta be honest - this makes me want to steer clear. Bottom line, it’s a bad idea/decision. And when bad ideas are this prominent, it makes me question the rest of the decisions underlying the product and whether I want to be trusting those decision makers in the many other ways trust is required to choose a vendor. Not trying to throw shade; just sharing how this hits me as someone who has built products and has been the person making decisions about which products to bring in. Start taking this seriously for your own sake.

> there's a large company with an almost identical name Are you suggesting that this wasn't intentional? The name is clearly a play on "zero shot" + "xerox"

by ot 2y ago

> there's a large company with an almost identical name Are you suggesting that this wasn't intentional? The name is clearly a play on "zero shot" + "xerox"

UncleOxidant 2y ago

I think they're suggesting that Xerox will likely sue them so might as well get ahead of that and change the name now.

8organicbits 2y ago
Even if they don't sue, do you really want to deal with people getting confused and thinking you mean one of the many pre-existing OCR tools that Xerox produces? A search for "Zerox OCR" will lead to Xerox products, for example. Not worth the headache. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zerox+OCR https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zerox+OCR

themanmaran 2y ago

Yup definitely a play on the name. Also the idea of photocopying a page, since we do pdf => image => markdown. We're not planning to name a company after it or anything, just the OS tool. And if xerox sues I'm sure we could rename the repo lol.

wewtyflakes 2y ago
It still seems reasonable someone may be confused, especially since the one letter of the company name that was changed has identical pronunciation (x --> z). It is like offering "Phacebook" or "Netfliks" competitors, but even less obviously different.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  Surprisingly, http://phacebook.com/ http://phacebook.com/ is for sale.
  - austinjp 2y ago
    From personal experience, I'd wager that anyone buying that domain will receive a letter from a Facebook lawyer pretty quickly.
noleary 2y ago
I would happily contribute to the legal defense fund.
ssl-3 2y ago
I was involved in a somewhat similar trademark issue once. I actually had a leg to stand on (my use was not infringing at all when I started using it), and I came out of it somewhat cash-positive, but I absolutely never want to go through anything like that ever again. > Yup definitely a play on the name. Also the idea of photocopying a page, But you? My God, man. With these words you have already doomed yourself. Best wishes.
- neilv 2y ago
  > With these words you have already doomed yourself. At least they didn't say "xeroxing a page".
haswell 2y ago
If they sue, this comment will be used to make their case. I guess I just don’t understand - how are you proceeding as if this is an acceptable starting point? With all respect, I don’t think you’re taking this seriously, and it reflects poorly on the team building the tool. It looks like this is also a way to raise awareness for Omni AI? If so, I’ve gotta be honest - this makes me want to steer clear. Bottom line, it’s a bad idea/decision. And when bad ideas are this prominent, it makes me question the rest of the decisions underlying the product and whether I want to be trusting those decision makers in the many other ways trust is required to choose a vendor. Not trying to throw shade; just sharing how this hits me as someone who has built products and has been the person making decisions about which products to bring in. Start taking this seriously for your own sake.