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He was taking money from the department of energy for research while collaborating with Chinese universities and did not disclose this and lied to investigators

by 99_00 2y ago

He was taking money from the department of energy for research while collaborating with Chinese universities and did not disclose this and lied to investigators about it.

hermannj314 2y ago
Isn't that the charge he was cleared for?
- dralley 2y ago
  He was cleared of espionage. He was not cleared for lying about the conflict of interest.
  - Leary 2y ago
    That conviction was overturned a week ago[1] [1] https://cen.acs.org/research-integrity/misconduct/Court-overturns-conviction-chemist-Feng/102/web/2024/07 https://cen.acs.org/research-integrity/misconduct/Court-over...
  - psychoslave 2y ago
    LOL. Because those that make these laws pass and participate in the witch hunt turned into a justice show never lied about conflict of interest, what actual agenda they have in mind, and how much they really care abouto serving humanity best interests.
  - no_exit 2y ago
    FTA: > At issue in the new ruling, issued 11 July, is whether Tao’s lack of disclosure about his affiliation with Fuzhou University in China affected federal agency funding decisions. The Denver appeals court agreed 2-1 that it was irrelevant because Tao had no grant proposals pending before those two agencies in question – the US Department of Energy and National Science Foundation – at the time he made his affiliation statement.
elashri 2y ago
I know a lot of people who are working in collaboration with Chinese universities and does get funded from the US government budget (through NSF and DOE). DOE funds a lot of open research and not only the nuclear/national security related research. I don't think this is in itself a problem. I'm not sure also what is defined as a lie here. Exchanging emails with people interested in your research does not automatically mean you collaborate together. The case is ambiguous, and you shouldn't jump to generalization like that. There is no ban on collaborating with Chinese universities in the US. There are restrictions for some type of research (that actually extend to the other countries as well).
- 99_00 2y ago
  The point is that he wasn’t charged for sending an email
- akira2501 2y ago
  > I'm not sure also what is defined as a lie here. It's the "Martha Stewart" lesson. It may be that you have done nothing wrong. The government may stop by and ask you questions anyways. If you lie during those questions you have committed a felony. Do NOT speak without a lawyer. In particular if you have anything worth losing. Which is more or less everyone.

by 99_00 2y ago

He was taking money from the department of energy for research while collaborating with Chinese universities and did not disclose this and lied to investigators about it.

hermannj314 2y ago

Isn't that the charge he was cleared for?

dralley 2y ago
He was cleared of espionage. He was not cleared for lying about the conflict of interest.
- Leary 2y ago
  That conviction was overturned a week ago[1] [1] https://cen.acs.org/research-integrity/misconduct/Court-overturns-conviction-chemist-Feng/102/web/2024/07 https://cen.acs.org/research-integrity/misconduct/Court-over...
- psychoslave 2y ago
  LOL. Because those that make these laws pass and participate in the witch hunt turned into a justice show never lied about conflict of interest, what actual agenda they have in mind, and how much they really care abouto serving humanity best interests.
- no_exit 2y ago
  FTA: > At issue in the new ruling, issued 11 July, is whether Tao’s lack of disclosure about his affiliation with Fuzhou University in China affected federal agency funding decisions. The Denver appeals court agreed 2-1 that it was irrelevant because Tao had no grant proposals pending before those two agencies in question – the US Department of Energy and National Science Foundation – at the time he made his affiliation statement.

elashri 2y ago

I know a lot of people who are working in collaboration with Chinese universities and does get funded from the US government budget (through NSF and DOE). DOE funds a lot of open research and not only the nuclear/national security related research. I don't think this is in itself a problem. I'm not sure also what is defined as a lie here. Exchanging emails with people interested in your research does not automatically mean you collaborate together. The case is ambiguous, and you shouldn't jump to generalization like that. There is no ban on collaborating with Chinese universities in the US. There are restrictions for some type of research (that actually extend to the other countries as well).

99_00 2y ago
The point is that he wasn’t charged for sending an email
akira2501 2y ago
> I'm not sure also what is defined as a lie here. It's the "Martha Stewart" lesson. It may be that you have done nothing wrong. The government may stop by and ask you questions anyways. If you lie during those questions you have committed a felony. Do NOT speak without a lawyer. In particular if you have anything worth losing. Which is more or less everyone.