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But ironically if I want to work for him, I need a college degree :)

by csel 14y ago

confluence 14y ago
See here my ironic friend: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4001377 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4001377 Isn't the world hilarious :D.
- tensor 14y ago
  Your view is very biased. What if the successes are often random? What if in truth many people could be founders if in the right place at the right time? How many of those people with higher degrees go on to be successful? Even founders? Hell, I can point you one successful founder who went through a degree and even a graduate degree: Peter Thiel. Yet you say: "Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool." Yes, the world is very complex, and you probably know less than you think you do. As do we all. The most honest among us always remember "we do not really understand."
  - confluence 14y ago
    Huh? Quoting out of context much? > Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool. Down to 1-2. Most of these guys fail. Well there's your Peter Thiel.
    - tensor 14y ago
      I don't think I quoted out of context. You seemed to be identifying people being taken out of the "successful pool." Here is the context: "1000 possible billionaires are born everyday. Most die in the third world. The remainder come from low socioeconomic backgrounds. Cuts that to about 100. Of those 100, few are located in places like Silicon Valley. Now you are around 10. Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool. Down to 1-2. Most of these guys fail."
      - confluence 14y ago
        > Most of these guys fail. That's my point. That's key. But note that I did not exclude the possibility of a Peter Thiel - which is what you imply. I was merely indicating that hero worship of people is rarely a good idea (for reasons previously stated) - that is all I have to say on this topic.
        tensor 14y ago
        That did not come across at all in your post. But thank you for clarifying. I agree completely.
  - confluence 14y ago
    Oh dear! I just reread your contention. We have the same ideas. You and I think alike. I was arguing that success is mostly random (skill is necessary but not sufficient) :D. I think you'll enjoy this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4078597 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4078597 I think we misunderstand each other. I am firmly in the random + skill camp (not pure skill).

But ironically if I want to work for him, I need a college degree :)

by csel 14y ago

But ironically if I want to work for him, I need a college degree :)

See here my ironic friend: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4001377 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4001377 Isn't the world hilarious :D.

tensor 14y ago
Your view is very biased. What if the successes are often random? What if in truth many people could be founders if in the right place at the right time? How many of those people with higher degrees go on to be successful? Even founders? Hell, I can point you one successful founder who went through a degree and even a graduate degree: Peter Thiel. Yet you say: "Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool." Yes, the world is very complex, and you probably know less than you think you do. As do we all. The most honest among us always remember "we do not really understand."
- confluence 14y ago
  Huh? Quoting out of context much? > Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool. Down to 1-2. Most of these guys fail. Well there's your Peter Thiel.
  - tensor 14y ago
    I don't think I quoted out of context. You seemed to be identifying people being taken out of the "successful pool." Here is the context: "1000 possible billionaires are born everyday. Most die in the third world. The remainder come from low socioeconomic backgrounds. Cuts that to about 100. Of those 100, few are located in places like Silicon Valley. Now you are around 10. Of these 10, some go study medicine/law/engineering and disappear from the pool. Down to 1-2. Most of these guys fail."
    - confluence 14y ago
      > Most of these guys fail. That's my point. That's key. But note that I did not exclude the possibility of a Peter Thiel - which is what you imply. I was merely indicating that hero worship of people is rarely a good idea (for reasons previously stated) - that is all I have to say on this topic.
      - tensor 14y ago
        That did not come across at all in your post. But thank you for clarifying. I agree completely.
- confluence 14y ago
  Oh dear! I just reread your contention. We have the same ideas. You and I think alike. I was arguing that success is mostly random (skill is necessary but not sufficient) :D. I think you'll enjoy this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4078597 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4078597 I think we misunderstand each other. I am firmly in the random + skill camp (not pure skill).