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> It’s not just salary. The "not just salary" bit is very often used as a mirage intended to fool employees to take a lower compensation than what they can get

> It’s not just salary. The "not just salary" bit is very often used as a mirage intended to fool employees to take a lower compensation than what they can get, and then tag a bunch of conditions that can't possibly or realistically be met.

freeqaz 2y ago
There is certainly a balance to be struck. Being in a meat grinder that pays well is not super fun, and a lot of people would gladly take 70-80% of that in exchange for work/life balance and strong PTO. TBH that's one of the reasons I chose the company I'm at now. I had other options, but having a team that I love and very healthy PTO won me over. To each their own!
aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago
Members of my family have serious health problems, and the company’s PPO plans cover medical treatments with world-class providers. It would probably be prohibitively expensive for us to purchase such a plan on the open market.
- nottorp 2y ago
  Basically a modern form of company town? Instead of being indentured by spending company scrip at the company store you're staying because of health insurance that would otherwise be unaffordable to you.
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  - aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago
    Yeah, well. This is America.
markus_zhang 2y ago
Sometimes money is really not the only variable, unless it's a very large amount, say half a million. For people with family, I believe a good insurance plan and flexibility in hours also mean a lot. Especially hours.
- sshine 2y ago
  > a good insurance plan Can be purchased with money. > flexibility in hours Hard to not get flexibility if remote is on the table, which it usually is for these jobs.
  - syntheticnature 2y ago
    When I was a consultant, I could not find a health insurance plan that was even vaguely the equal of my current job's health insurance. Not too expensive, but simply not offered. That's not to say that job insurance is automatically good -- the job I had before being a consultant had worse health insurance that was a little worse than the plans I had as a consultant.
    - tracker1 2y ago
      My plan next time I'm doing any kind of c2c type work will be to setup with trinet or another similar company to handle payroll benefits, even if it is just me.
      - fulladder 2y ago
        You'd still have GP's problem of not finding any decent health insurance offered for a single-employee business. Google "adverse selection."
        tracker1 2y ago
        The health insurance would be from TriNet (not a single-employee business). There are similar collective businesses.
ska 2y ago
That certainly can be true (not universally) when a company that might give you an offer is saying it. If it’s coming from a peer, especially one whose been round a few more blocks than you, may just be an observation about life.

freeqaz 2y ago

There is certainly a balance to be struck. Being in a meat grinder that pays well is not super fun, and a lot of people would gladly take 70-80% of that in exchange for work/life balance and strong PTO. TBH that's one of the reasons I chose the company I'm at now. I had other options, but having a team that I love and very healthy PTO won me over. To each their own!

aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago

Members of my family have serious health problems, and the company’s PPO plans cover medical treatments with world-class providers. It would probably be prohibitively expensive for us to purchase such a plan on the open market.

nottorp 2y ago
Basically a modern form of company town? Instead of being indentured by spending company scrip at the company store you're staying because of health insurance that would otherwise be unaffordable to you.
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- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago
  Yeah, well. This is America.

markus_zhang 2y ago

Sometimes money is really not the only variable, unless it's a very large amount, say half a million. For people with family, I believe a good insurance plan and flexibility in hours also mean a lot. Especially hours.

sshine 2y ago
> a good insurance plan Can be purchased with money. > flexibility in hours Hard to not get flexibility if remote is on the table, which it usually is for these jobs.
- syntheticnature 2y ago
  When I was a consultant, I could not find a health insurance plan that was even vaguely the equal of my current job's health insurance. Not too expensive, but simply not offered. That's not to say that job insurance is automatically good -- the job I had before being a consultant had worse health insurance that was a little worse than the plans I had as a consultant.
  - tracker1 2y ago
    My plan next time I'm doing any kind of c2c type work will be to setup with trinet or another similar company to handle payroll benefits, even if it is just me.
    - fulladder 2y ago
      You'd still have GP's problem of not finding any decent health insurance offered for a single-employee business. Google "adverse selection."
      - tracker1 2y ago
        The health insurance would be from TriNet (not a single-employee business). There are similar collective businesses.

ska 2y ago

That certainly can be true (not universally) when a company that might give you an offer is saying it. If it’s coming from a peer, especially one whose been round a few more blocks than you, may just be an observation about life.