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And it's also integrated into the bootloader (if you use one of the supported ones). The bootloader shows you one boot entry per snapshot so you can boot an old

And it's also integrated into the bootloader (if you use one of the supported ones). The bootloader shows you one boot entry per snapshot so you can boot an old snapshot directly.

jwrallie 2y ago
Very nice, sometimes people claim that the only difference between distros is the repository and package management tools. It is when the defaults make the parts integrate nicely like this that the “greater is more than the sum of its parts” come into place.
Spunkie 2y ago
This is a feature I've really been missing since switching from grub to systemd-boot. Has anyone figured out an easy way to get this back with systemd-boot?
- Arnavion 2y ago
  Some time ago they did add systemd-boot as a supported option and apparently it also generates one entry per snapshot. https://news.opensuse.org/2024/03/05/systemd-boot-integration-in-os/ https://news.opensuse.org/2024/03/05/systemd-boot-integratio... https://en.opensuse.org/Systemd-boot#Installation_with_full_BTRFS_snapshot_and_secure_boot_support https://en.opensuse.org/Systemd-boot#Installation_with_full_... https://github.com/openSUSE/sdbootutil https://github.com/openSUSE/sdbootutil I haven't tried it though so I don't know for sure. (I have my own custom systemd-boot setup that predates theirs, and since my setup uses signed UKIs and theirs doesn't, I don't care to switch to theirs. I can still switch snapshots manually with `btrfs subvol` anyway; it just might require a live CD in case the default snapshot doesn't boot.)
  - Vogtinator 2y ago
    I'm using Tumbleweed with btrfs snapshots, systemd-boot and transparent disk encryption (using TPM + measured boot), works fine. Currently this needs to be set up semi-manually (select some options in the installer, then run some commands after install), but it'll be automatic soon.
- boomboomsubban 2y ago
  systemd-boot has relatively recently added support for loading filesystems, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/71e5a35a5be99a1f244d38ee1dfe7db39242a977/NEWS#L3177C1-L3181C38 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/71e5a35a5be99a1f244d... meaning you should be able to set up something similar. I wouldn't describe it as "easy" yet.

And it's also integrated into the bootloader (if you use one of the supported ones). The bootloader shows you one boot entry per snapshot so you can boot an old snapshot directly.

jwrallie 2y ago

Very nice, sometimes people claim that the only difference between distros is the repository and package management tools. It is when the defaults make the parts integrate nicely like this that the “greater is more than the sum of its parts” come into place.

Spunkie 2y ago

This is a feature I've really been missing since switching from grub to systemd-boot. Has anyone figured out an easy way to get this back with systemd-boot?

Arnavion 2y ago
Some time ago they did add systemd-boot as a supported option and apparently it also generates one entry per snapshot. https://news.opensuse.org/2024/03/05/systemd-boot-integration-in-os/ https://news.opensuse.org/2024/03/05/systemd-boot-integratio... https://en.opensuse.org/Systemd-boot#Installation_with_full_BTRFS_snapshot_and_secure_boot_support https://en.opensuse.org/Systemd-boot#Installation_with_full_... https://github.com/openSUSE/sdbootutil https://github.com/openSUSE/sdbootutil I haven't tried it though so I don't know for sure. (I have my own custom systemd-boot setup that predates theirs, and since my setup uses signed UKIs and theirs doesn't, I don't care to switch to theirs. I can still switch snapshots manually with `btrfs subvol` anyway; it just might require a live CD in case the default snapshot doesn't boot.)
- Vogtinator 2y ago
  I'm using Tumbleweed with btrfs snapshots, systemd-boot and transparent disk encryption (using TPM + measured boot), works fine. Currently this needs to be set up semi-manually (select some options in the installer, then run some commands after install), but it'll be automatic soon.
boomboomsubban 2y ago
systemd-boot has relatively recently added support for loading filesystems, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/71e5a35a5be99a1f244d38ee1dfe7db39242a977/NEWS#L3177C1-L3181C38 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/71e5a35a5be99a1f244d... meaning you should be able to set up something similar. I wouldn't describe it as "easy" yet.