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It also makes file management a bloody nightmare, so much so that I gave up on iPhone/iPad years ago and moved back to Android. There are trade-offs. I don't wa

by Sakos 2y ago

It also makes file management a bloody nightmare, so much so that I gave up on iPhone/iPad years ago and moved back to Android. There are trade-offs. I don't want Windows to just become another MacOS or even iOS where I'm so limited in what I'm allowed to do with my system.

otterley 2y ago
File management? It's a phone. Besides, if you absolutely must manage a file store, there's a native iCloud Files integration now (https://support.apple.com/en-us/102570 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102570). The situation is a lot better than it used to be.
- Sakos 2y ago
  It being a phone doesn't change the fact that files exist and need to be managed. Yeah, iCloud files integration isn't what I'm looking for. It's just another workaround for the core problem that remains.
- salawat 2y ago
  What in the hell makes you think that just because the form factor of a computer is a phone, that suddenly routine file management is something that no longer is on the list of things I might want to do? Truly one of the most brain-off takes I have ever had the misfortune of being privy to. "Hey, lets lock out one of the most basic computing primitives because the hardware form factor happens to be consistent with a telephony handset." Seriously. People who think like this are the same people who are draining the life out of computing. Trying to turn it into little more than a top-down orchestrated, network-access trickling device, instead of what it should be, which is an emancipator of the physical limitations of the human brain; a bicycle for the mind.
theshrike79 2y ago
It's been a LONG while since I cared about "files" on my phone. Can't really think of a valid use-case to care really.
- Sakos 2y ago
  Documents of all kinds. I guess you just use your phone for YouTube, TikTok and WhatsApp? That's fine, but that doesn't invalidate the obvious limitations of the OS and how that isn't acceptable to me. What happened to the technical competency of the people commenting on HN? You can't think of a single valid use-case? Really? Then it's a waste of time talking to you.
  - otterley 2y ago
    A big part of "technical competency" is using the right tool for the job.
    - Sakos 2y ago
      And the right tool for the job when I'm not at my desktop or laptop is my phone. Imagine that. What the fuck is going on here? Why is HN trying to gaslight me into believing there's never a need to ever use or manage documents on a mobile device? What in the actual fuck.
      - otterley 2y ago
        I think you're being a bit dramatic. Pretty much every cloud-based file management service has an iOS client. It's not like there are no solutions here.

by Sakos 2y ago

otterley 2y ago

File management? It's a phone. Besides, if you absolutely must manage a file store, there's a native iCloud Files integration now (https://support.apple.com/en-us/102570 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102570). The situation is a lot better than it used to be.

Sakos 2y ago
It being a phone doesn't change the fact that files exist and need to be managed. Yeah, iCloud files integration isn't what I'm looking for. It's just another workaround for the core problem that remains.
salawat 2y ago
What in the hell makes you think that just because the form factor of a computer is a phone, that suddenly routine file management is something that no longer is on the list of things I might want to do? Truly one of the most brain-off takes I have ever had the misfortune of being privy to. "Hey, lets lock out one of the most basic computing primitives because the hardware form factor happens to be consistent with a telephony handset." Seriously. People who think like this are the same people who are draining the life out of computing. Trying to turn it into little more than a top-down orchestrated, network-access trickling device, instead of what it should be, which is an emancipator of the physical limitations of the human brain; a bicycle for the mind.

theshrike79 2y ago

It's been a LONG while since I cared about "files" on my phone. Can't really think of a valid use-case to care really.

Sakos 2y ago
Documents of all kinds. I guess you just use your phone for YouTube, TikTok and WhatsApp? That's fine, but that doesn't invalidate the obvious limitations of the OS and how that isn't acceptable to me. What happened to the technical competency of the people commenting on HN? You can't think of a single valid use-case? Really? Then it's a waste of time talking to you.
- otterley 2y ago
  A big part of "technical competency" is using the right tool for the job.
  - Sakos 2y ago
    And the right tool for the job when I'm not at my desktop or laptop is my phone. Imagine that. What the fuck is going on here? Why is HN trying to gaslight me into believing there's never a need to ever use or manage documents on a mobile device? What in the actual fuck.
    - otterley 2y ago
      I think you're being a bit dramatic. Pretty much every cloud-based file management service has an iOS client. It's not like there are no solutions here.