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Deel provides a solution to workers having too much time and patience, and the value of giving nice chunk of each salary for the pleasure of making payroll suck
by Y_Y 2y ago
Deel provides a solution to workers having too much time and patience, and the value of giving nice chunk of each salary for the pleasure of making payroll suck with some AI smeared on top.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Deel provides a solution to workers having too much time and patience Their innovation was abstracting away the complexity of cross-border hiring. Their impact is meaningful to the degree employment is.
- Y_Y 2y agoThey didn't innovate there! Safeguard Global and plenty of others were doing the same middlemanning for years before. Just because they interact with employment doesn't mean they're as important as the whole concept.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Safeguard Global and plenty of others were doing the same middlemanning for years before This is sort of like saying the iPod was a better Walkman. Yes, you could functionally do the same thing. But no, it wasn't as easy which meant it wasn't as frequently done. (And as a result of pressure from the upstarts, payroll across the board became smoother.) > Just because they interact with employment doesn't mean they're as important as the whole concept Nobody said that. I said "their impact is meaningful to the degree employment is." To the people whose roles exist on account of platforms like Deel, their existence is meaningful.
- Y_Y 2y agoI don't like Deel, but you do.
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoNo, I hate pretty much all payroll processors. I also hate most IDEs, that doesn’t mean I don’t see value in them.
- Y_Y 2y agoM: I came here for a good argument! O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument! M: An argument isn't just contradiction. O: Well! it CAN be! M: No it can't! M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. O: No it isn't!
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoI was asked for a list of startups that “have provided lasting real solutions and value.” I gave a list and said “pick one.” You pushed back on Deel. I pointed out why they have value. You then pivoted to the non sequitur that I “like Deel.” I pointed out that isn’t true, and never needed to be—this was never a discussion about which start-ups we want to put a sticker on. It’s a bit rich to complain about logical fallacies after throwing one out.
- Y_Y 2y agoI wasn't convinced that Deel provided value, though it seemed that that by subjective or semantic means you had reasonably come to the opposite conclusion. My attenpt to boil that down to something pithy didn't do much good, and after your response I felt like the discussion was providing more heat than light, so I used a humorous reference to indicate that I thought we were mostly naysaysing each other. You haven't changed my mind but you may have changed others' and you did make me think. Let's have an even better discussion next time.