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As long as we get season 3 of Foundation and they don’t leave us hanging I’ll be happy

by jahnu 2y ago

duxup 2y ago
I'm endlessly amused about how the most compelling aspects of Foundation are those disconnected from the source material. It's not how things go usually, but they made some great content.
pests 2y ago
I would hope so, they just wrapped up filming yesterday. It's a reddit link but some details in the comments and the original source did seem a bit tabloidy. https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/s/SP85IxZmiy https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/s/SP85IxZmiy
- tsunamifury 2y ago
  Really last I check filming had stopped and crew had been sent home over budget crisis.
josteink 2y ago
To be fair Asimov himself kept us hanging with the books and only completed the series (making it worse imo), just because the commercial publishers wanted the money. Sometimes less is more.
- eadmund 2y ago
  To be fair, Asimov’s Foundation and Apple’s Foundation are almost completely unrelated.
  - dbspin 2y ago
    Indeed. One is an all time great science fiction series thats inspired a host of imitators. The other is whatever fluff Apple have bowdlerised its name with. It's genuinely closer to the YA fanfic level screenwriting of the new Star Trek series than Gibbon's Decline & Fall in space.
    - GreatLdisisp88 2y ago
      Asimov Foundation books near impossible to adapt to TV series or movies. It has no typical hero's arc. Even in Gibbon's Rome book you able to follow say Nero rise and downfall. As a generic idea book, Asimov books were ahead of his time. As a good scifi novel? He was several magnitudes below Cixin - and majority would even place Ursula way way higher than Asimov. Apple Foundation literally blast through Asimov story telling. To me, at least Apple succeeded as YA or within a potshot of Cixin. Asimov literally failed in adult scifi by today's standard. What holding you is nostalgia. Evaluate the story in contemporary terms.
      - leereeves 2y ago
        Why does a book need a hero's arc? I've read the "Second Foundation trilogy" written by other renowned sci-fi authors, as well as the later Foundation books written by Asimov. They had typical main characters with hero's arcs driving the story. I much preferred the originals. Especially the first book. It's refreshing to read a story where events occur because of unstoppable historical forces instead of the superhuman actions of a hero. If I wanted a story about a hero, I could read...well...just about any other book ever written.
        voltaireodactyl 2y ago
        A book doesn’t, and Foundation makes excellent use of every inch of the novel as a medium to explore itself, but the commenter above was specifically referring to what made the book difficult to adapt into a television series. And while Malick et all can def do “rumination on a theme” as a feature film, an ongoing tv series requires the audience to invest and keep coming back week after week, episode after episode. Generally that takes the form of characters who experience things — ideally growing or changing in response, although many genres and formats don’t require that part. It’s unnecessary since part of the medium of television, unlike the novel, is people putting on a show to entertain you which is different from reading, an inherently more-individual experience. Part of what TV is selling is a group of people to hang out with every week. Generally. Which is not to say always — shows like Twilight Zone and Tales from the Crypt proved the anthology format has a wide audience. But they had the advantage of a brand new paradigm each week, which creates a relationship with the show itself (but even TZ allowed the audience Serling). Foundation def be done as anthology style episodes with some crossovers/overlap, but again practical realities make it difficult to guarantee narratively-necessary access to actors due to contract and scheduling factors, and you have the issue of both too big for standard structure and “not big enough” for a true anthology at its core. Not saying it couldn’t work it’d just be more difficult, which is not a quality that makes studios likely to invest.
- jahnu 2y ago
  True but they have filmed season 3 already. Just hope it makes it out of the edit room and onto the screen.
sgt 2y ago
Agreed. Getting season 3 of Foundation is literally the only thing Eddy Cue needs to do. Hope he's reminded every day. Once Foundation is done, they can shut down all the Apple TV+ servers. Rather put the money into an Apple Robot. The robot needs to have Eddye Cue eyes and that constant grin.
- RheingoldRiver 2y ago
  Silo is also really good
  - teeheelol 2y ago
    It’s too dark. I can’t watch it on my crappy TV
  - pwillia7 2y ago
    I disliked the ending of Silo so much it ruined the rest of the series for me.
    - theshrike79 2y ago
      The ending of the book series or just the TV adaptation?
      - RheingoldRiver 2y ago
        I haven't read the books but I've heard a lot of people say the ending of book 3 sucks a lot, so I'm assuming GP means the books
        theshrike79 2y ago
        Dunno why people say it sucks, it's (no real spoilers) a genre staple ending pretty much. Leaves stuff open for a sequel, as they do, but still finishes off the main plot.
      - pwillia7 2y ago

As long as we get season 3 of Foundation and they don’t leave us hanging I’ll be happy

by jahnu 2y ago

As long as we get season 3 of Foundation and they don’t leave us hanging I’ll be happy

I'm endlessly amused about how the most compelling aspects of Foundation are those disconnected from the source material. It's not how things go usually, but they made some great content.

pests 2y ago

I would hope so, they just wrapped up filming yesterday. It's a reddit link but some details in the comments and the original source did seem a bit tabloidy. https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/s/SP85IxZmiy https://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/s/SP85IxZmiy

tsunamifury 2y ago
Really last I check filming had stopped and crew had been sent home over budget crisis.

josteink 2y ago

To be fair Asimov himself kept us hanging with the books and only completed the series (making it worse imo), just because the commercial publishers wanted the money. Sometimes less is more.

eadmund 2y ago
To be fair, Asimov’s Foundation and Apple’s Foundation are almost completely unrelated.
- dbspin 2y ago
  Indeed. One is an all time great science fiction series thats inspired a host of imitators. The other is whatever fluff Apple have bowdlerised its name with. It's genuinely closer to the YA fanfic level screenwriting of the new Star Trek series than Gibbon's Decline & Fall in space.
  - GreatLdisisp88 2y ago
    Asimov Foundation books near impossible to adapt to TV series or movies. It has no typical hero's arc. Even in Gibbon's Rome book you able to follow say Nero rise and downfall. As a generic idea book, Asimov books were ahead of his time. As a good scifi novel? He was several magnitudes below Cixin - and majority would even place Ursula way way higher than Asimov. Apple Foundation literally blast through Asimov story telling. To me, at least Apple succeeded as YA or within a potshot of Cixin. Asimov literally failed in adult scifi by today's standard. What holding you is nostalgia. Evaluate the story in contemporary terms.
    - leereeves 2y ago
      Why does a book need a hero's arc? I've read the "Second Foundation trilogy" written by other renowned sci-fi authors, as well as the later Foundation books written by Asimov. They had typical main characters with hero's arcs driving the story. I much preferred the originals. Especially the first book. It's refreshing to read a story where events occur because of unstoppable historical forces instead of the superhuman actions of a hero. If I wanted a story about a hero, I could read...well...just about any other book ever written.
      - voltaireodactyl 2y ago
        A book doesn’t, and Foundation makes excellent use of every inch of the novel as a medium to explore itself, but the commenter above was specifically referring to what made the book difficult to adapt into a television series. And while Malick et all can def do “rumination on a theme” as a feature film, an ongoing tv series requires the audience to invest and keep coming back week after week, episode after episode. Generally that takes the form of characters who experience things — ideally growing or changing in response, although many genres and formats don’t require that part. It’s unnecessary since part of the medium of television, unlike the novel, is people putting on a show to entertain you which is different from reading, an inherently more-individual experience. Part of what TV is selling is a group of people to hang out with every week. Generally. Which is not to say always — shows like Twilight Zone and Tales from the Crypt proved the anthology format has a wide audience. But they had the advantage of a brand new paradigm each week, which creates a relationship with the show itself (but even TZ allowed the audience Serling). Foundation def be done as anthology style episodes with some crossovers/overlap, but again practical realities make it difficult to guarantee narratively-necessary access to actors due to contract and scheduling factors, and you have the issue of both too big for standard structure and “not big enough” for a true anthology at its core. Not saying it couldn’t work it’d just be more difficult, which is not a quality that makes studios likely to invest.
jahnu 2y ago
True but they have filmed season 3 already. Just hope it makes it out of the edit room and onto the screen.

sgt 2y ago

Agreed. Getting season 3 of Foundation is literally the only thing Eddy Cue needs to do. Hope he's reminded every day. Once Foundation is done, they can shut down all the Apple TV+ servers. Rather put the money into an Apple Robot. The robot needs to have Eddye Cue eyes and that constant grin.

RheingoldRiver 2y ago
Silo is also really good
- teeheelol 2y ago
  It’s too dark. I can’t watch it on my crappy TV
- pwillia7 2y ago
  I disliked the ending of Silo so much it ruined the rest of the series for me.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    The ending of the book series or just the TV adaptation?
    - RheingoldRiver 2y ago
      I haven't read the books but I've heard a lot of people say the ending of book 3 sucks a lot, so I'm assuming GP means the books
      - theshrike79 2y ago
        Dunno why people say it sucks, it's (no real spoilers) a genre staple ending pretty much. Leaves stuff open for a sequel, as they do, but still finishes off the main plot.
    - pwillia7 2y ago