Some that aren't quite so idealized: * Don't care - children are not a priority (often "I am the priority") * Get wealthy - children oppose money gaining * G

Some that aren't quite so idealized: * Don't care - children are not a priority (often "I am the priority") * Get wealthy - children oppose money gaining * Get famous - children correlate poorly with rapid fame rise * Get sex - children correlate poorly with being a player * Work less - children take work (if not already wealthy) * America - https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/americans-feelings-about-politics-polarization-and-the-tone-of-political-discourse/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/americans-fe... * Sinking ship - enshitification everywhere, murder stats on all news, why have kids in a latrine? * Success correlation - wealth and success correlated with starting wealth. why have kids? * Negative wage slave experiences - hey kids, here's your collar, just like mine. * Abortion access - americans would fight to the death other over abortion access. wait, they already do. "a gift to Jesus on his birthday." * Health care (not specifically kids) - 10x all other locations. * Food - pointlessly expensive. so much land it's nonsense humans starve. they fight to squander it all.