3 ms·

Humans had natural information barriers. A foreign power invading a secret library would need significant time and resources to process its contents, often miss

Humans had natural information barriers. A foreign power invading a secret library would need significant time and resources to process its contents, often missing crucial details. This created an asymmetry in knowledge and data processing capabilities. Today, AI can analyze extreme amounts of data, eliminating this asymmetry and creating a gap with our own capability. How can we maintain some level of 'information obscurity' or processing advantage against the AI? Are there any methods that remain challenging for AI to interpret but are accessible to humans? I was thinking more like creating "DRM-like" content in obscure copy that might withstand for a while ... shrug

BuyMyBitcoins 2y ago
Such schemes likely exist, but you would be hard pressed to find any system that wouldn’t also be burdensome for real humans to deal with. This is basically the same thing as CAPTCHA. I’m curious if you’re more concerned about the corpus of your work being used in the training of a model, or, parts of your work being analyzed by an existing model? For the former, I suspect copyright laws will eventually come around that afford some protection. But as for having something summarize your work, I sense that no copyright laws would be made for that.
talldayo 2y ago
I just don't understand the question, I guess. By sharing something online you are removing its information barriers almost entirely. That means both humans and AI have plausible and complete access to what you've made. If you don't want people or AI to have access to your content, then don't put it on the internet. I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too, there is no "stop humans from reading about me online" button and certainly no such thing exists for AI either.
- JohnFen 2y ago
  This is the situation, yes. So what I've done is remove my works from the open web and put it behind a login wall. If you want an account, I have to be certain that you're a human being and that you will not proceed to put my work somewhere where it can be scraped by an AI bot. Which, in practice, means that I have to personally know you. I don't know of any other solution to this problem at this time.

BuyMyBitcoins 2y ago

Such schemes likely exist, but you would be hard pressed to find any system that wouldn’t also be burdensome for real humans to deal with. This is basically the same thing as CAPTCHA. I’m curious if you’re more concerned about the corpus of your work being used in the training of a model, or, parts of your work being analyzed by an existing model? For the former, I suspect copyright laws will eventually come around that afford some protection. But as for having something summarize your work, I sense that no copyright laws would be made for that.

talldayo 2y ago

I just don't understand the question, I guess. By sharing something online you are removing its information barriers almost entirely. That means both humans and AI have plausible and complete access to what you've made. If you don't want people or AI to have access to your content, then don't put it on the internet. I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too, there is no "stop humans from reading about me online" button and certainly no such thing exists for AI either.

JohnFen 2y ago
This is the situation, yes. So what I've done is remove my works from the open web and put it behind a login wall. If you want an account, I have to be certain that you're a human being and that you will not proceed to put my work somewhere where it can be scraped by an AI bot. Which, in practice, means that I have to personally know you. I don't know of any other solution to this problem at this time.