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Yeah there's a lot of nuance state-to-state, like Illinois charging for certain digital services.

by turnsout 2y ago

kayodelycaon 2y ago
It's worse than that, it can also vary by city.
- turnsout 2y ago
  It can even vary within the city—in Chicago there's an extra tax on the F&B industry to support Navy Pier, with very specific boundaries.
- chrismorgan 2y ago
  Once I was long-distance cycling in the USA during the summer, and rather fond of chocolate shakes. Somewhere at a fast food place, I got asked if I was eating in or taking out. I asked what the difference was—it seemed incongruous to ask on such an item when that’s the entirety of the order. My curiosity was rewarded: apparently there was an extra tax in that city on one or the other; so I did whichever was cheaper (and honestly, either drinking it inside, or sitting on my trike). I even came across taxes that were only present in half a city, even—one side of a road but not the other, that kind of thing.
  - fencepost 2y ago
    That's probably not uncommon since municipality borders don't follow county borders.
- nanidin 2y ago
  It can even vary within a city, and within a zip code - see TID's, NID's, and CID's.
  - kayodelycaon 2y ago
    It's even worse than that. You need a complete address to actually know what the correct tax is.
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
I miss the good ole days when Boomer politicians didn't realize you could buy things on the internet (or that it even existed) and everything was without sales tax.
- szundi 2y ago
  That was the reason they retaliated with hate probably
- FabHK 2y ago
  So, let's look at what actually happened. Boomer Bill Clinton signed the Internet Tax Freedom Act into law in 1998, prohibiting taxation of internet sales to support the growth of commerce on the internet (which itself was invented by Boomers and even older generations). Much much later there were efforts to tax sales on the internet no matter where in the US, and for good reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tax_Freedom_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tax_Freedom_Act
  - nijave 2y ago
    >Much much later there were efforts to tax sales on the internet no matter where in the US, and for good reasons. The Wayfair Decision in 2018 Seems like it was both enacted and neutered by Boomers and even older generations. Concurring justices: - Justice Anthony Kennedy - Silent Generation (born 1936) - Justice Clarence Thomas - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1948) - Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg - Silent Generation (born 1933) - Justice Samuel Alito - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1950) - Justice Neil Gorsuch - Generation X (born 1967) Appointing presidents: - Ronald Reagan (Justice Anthony Kennedy) - Greatest Generation (born 1911) - George H. W. Bush (Justice Clarence Thomas) - Greatest Generation (born 1924) - Bill Clinton (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946) - George W. Bush (Justice Samuel Alito) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946) - Donald Trump (Justice Neil Gorsuch) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946)
    - thaumasiotes 2y ago
      > Ronald Reagan (Justice Anthony Kennedy) > George H. W. Bush (Justice Clarence Thomas) > Bill Clinton (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) What's up with repeating the word "Justice" so much? Shouldn't you be writing "President of the United States Ronald Reagan, Leader of the Free World (Justice Anthony Kennedy)", etc?
Suppafly 2y ago
>like Illinois charging for certain digital services I live in IL and haven't heard of that. Generally if something is a 'sale' it's taxed though. I miss the old days when anything purchased online was some gray area they couldn't figure out if they should tax or not.
- Thorrez 2y ago
  I think it's specifically Chicago: >Chicago’s 9% amusement tax extends to all “amusements that are delivered electronically.” If you stay home and watch a movie, you pay the same tax rate as you would if seeing it in theaters. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/this-christmas-your-gift-from-chicago-is-9-tax-even-if-home-alone/ https://www.illinoispolicy.org/this-christmas-your-gift-from...

Yeah there's a lot of nuance state-to-state, like Illinois charging for certain digital services.

kayodelycaon 2y ago

It's worse than that, it can also vary by city.

turnsout 2y ago
It can even vary within the city—in Chicago there's an extra tax on the F&B industry to support Navy Pier, with very specific boundaries.
chrismorgan 2y ago
Once I was long-distance cycling in the USA during the summer, and rather fond of chocolate shakes. Somewhere at a fast food place, I got asked if I was eating in or taking out. I asked what the difference was—it seemed incongruous to ask on such an item when that’s the entirety of the order. My curiosity was rewarded: apparently there was an extra tax in that city on one or the other; so I did whichever was cheaper (and honestly, either drinking it inside, or sitting on my trike). I even came across taxes that were only present in half a city, even—one side of a road but not the other, that kind of thing.
- fencepost 2y ago
  That's probably not uncommon since municipality borders don't follow county borders.
nanidin 2y ago
It can even vary within a city, and within a zip code - see TID's, NID's, and CID's.
- kayodelycaon 2y ago
  It's even worse than that. You need a complete address to actually know what the correct tax is.

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

I miss the good ole days when Boomer politicians didn't realize you could buy things on the internet (or that it even existed) and everything was without sales tax.

szundi 2y ago
That was the reason they retaliated with hate probably
FabHK 2y ago
So, let's look at what actually happened. Boomer Bill Clinton signed the Internet Tax Freedom Act into law in 1998, prohibiting taxation of internet sales to support the growth of commerce on the internet (which itself was invented by Boomers and even older generations). Much much later there were efforts to tax sales on the internet no matter where in the US, and for good reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tax_Freedom_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tax_Freedom_Act
- nijave 2y ago
  >Much much later there were efforts to tax sales on the internet no matter where in the US, and for good reasons. The Wayfair Decision in 2018 Seems like it was both enacted and neutered by Boomers and even older generations. Concurring justices: - Justice Anthony Kennedy - Silent Generation (born 1936) - Justice Clarence Thomas - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1948) - Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg - Silent Generation (born 1933) - Justice Samuel Alito - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1950) - Justice Neil Gorsuch - Generation X (born 1967) Appointing presidents: - Ronald Reagan (Justice Anthony Kennedy) - Greatest Generation (born 1911) - George H. W. Bush (Justice Clarence Thomas) - Greatest Generation (born 1924) - Bill Clinton (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946) - George W. Bush (Justice Samuel Alito) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946) - Donald Trump (Justice Neil Gorsuch) - Baby Boomer Generation (born 1946)
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    > Ronald Reagan (Justice Anthony Kennedy) > George H. W. Bush (Justice Clarence Thomas) > Bill Clinton (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) What's up with repeating the word "Justice" so much? Shouldn't you be writing "President of the United States Ronald Reagan, Leader of the Free World (Justice Anthony Kennedy)", etc?

Suppafly 2y ago

>like Illinois charging for certain digital services I live in IL and haven't heard of that. Generally if something is a 'sale' it's taxed though. I miss the old days when anything purchased online was some gray area they couldn't figure out if they should tax or not.

Thorrez 2y ago
I think it's specifically Chicago: >Chicago’s 9% amusement tax extends to all “amusements that are delivered electronically.” If you stay home and watch a movie, you pay the same tax rate as you would if seeing it in theaters. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/this-christmas-your-gift-from-chicago-is-9-tax-even-if-home-alone/ https://www.illinoispolicy.org/this-christmas-your-gift-from...