I stopped worrying about cargo cult web development once I recognized that these frameworks ultimately use the same vanilla APIs and do not represent a fundamen

I stopped worrying about cargo cult web development once I recognized that these frameworks ultimately use the same vanilla APIs and do not represent a fundamentally different path that is in conflict with anything I care about. Somewhere in that dark JS ecosystem forest exists an actual call to document.getElementById(). The browser is going to execute it in the exact same way it would be executed from my vanilla code. There is no magic here. So, for me the stakes are more about my experience of browsing the web getting crappier over time. Not sure how avoidable this is considering how much the web has grown in scale & accessibility. Hackernews is still a good experience (IMO), so you can't say it's all gone to hell. I don't care that others use these tools anymore. I used to need frameworks to get things done before I mastered the fundamentals.