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I'm not sure I understand what this does compared to Stripe? It actually seems like all the features are what Stripe already does.

that_guy_iain 2y ago
Sorry, just had time to come back to this thread. Stripe Billing doesn't allow you to: * Control the templates of your pdfs * Control the templates of your emails * Control how your emails are being sent * It makes having multiple subscription items a lot easier. * It allows you to define tax rates on a customer and product level * It allows you to define tax rates on a country and state level * Have multiple brands on the same account Also, it's a lot cheaper than Stripe Billing even the cloud hosted version is. Stripe Tax is even more expensive.
meiraleal 2y ago
If that's the case, it is a great software, no?
- yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
  Again maybe I'm missing something but since it's built on top of Stripe, I would expect that it does more than just Stripe. Otherwise I don't see why I would try to install this?
  - skrebbel 2y ago
    For one, Stripe Billing has been getting pretty pricey
    - mynameisvlad 2y ago
      Once again, this tool builds on top of Stripe and Stripe alone. You aren’t really escaping their fees by using this tool.
      - that_guy_iain 2y ago
        You could escape Stripe Billing, Stripe Tax, Stripe Invoice, and Stripe Paylink fees For £80,000 a month with transactions each being £100. * Stripe Billing is £400 a month or £4,800 a year. * Stripe Tax £800; a month or £9,600. * Payment Links is £320; a month or £3840 a year. Total per month: £1,520. Total per year £18,240. And that would be a small company.
      - danenania 2y ago
        'Stripe Billing' is a separate product from the core Stripe service with additional fees.
VoidWhisperer 2y ago
The main difference is that the source code is available under a FSL license and after two years converts to the apache 2.0 license... compared to Stripe where the core part of the system is closed source and proprietary
- yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
  Ok but it integrates with Stripe, right? If you still need Stripe anyway you may as well use their features directly rather than go through an indirection layer?
  - canadiantim 2y ago
    It’s actually better to use a buffer layer so your own payment logic is platform independent, eg if stripe bans you accidentally you can easily use another payment provider
    - yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
      I agree it would be great in this situation but currently it only supports Stripe, and they don't mention plans of supporting any other payment platform.
    - datavirtue 2y ago
      That being said, this does not look to be targeted at small businesses and that problem is one that is only faced by small businesses. Small operations need to have every payment system they can get their hands on (lest one of them throw the ban hammer). A killer feature for smaller operations would be multiple payment integrations.

that_guy_iain 2y ago

Sorry, just had time to come back to this thread. Stripe Billing doesn't allow you to: * Control the templates of your pdfs * Control the templates of your emails * Control how your emails are being sent * It makes having multiple subscription items a lot easier. * It allows you to define tax rates on a customer and product level * It allows you to define tax rates on a country and state level * Have multiple brands on the same account Also, it's a lot cheaper than Stripe Billing even the cloud hosted version is. Stripe Tax is even more expensive.

meiraleal 2y ago

If that's the case, it is a great software, no?

yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
Again maybe I'm missing something but since it's built on top of Stripe, I would expect that it does more than just Stripe. Otherwise I don't see why I would try to install this?
- skrebbel 2y ago
  For one, Stripe Billing has been getting pretty pricey
  - mynameisvlad 2y ago
    Once again, this tool builds on top of Stripe and Stripe alone. You aren’t really escaping their fees by using this tool.
    - that_guy_iain 2y ago
      You could escape Stripe Billing, Stripe Tax, Stripe Invoice, and Stripe Paylink fees For £80,000 a month with transactions each being £100. * Stripe Billing is £400 a month or £4,800 a year. * Stripe Tax £800; a month or £9,600. * Payment Links is £320; a month or £3840 a year. Total per month: £1,520. Total per year £18,240. And that would be a small company.
    - danenania 2y ago
      'Stripe Billing' is a separate product from the core Stripe service with additional fees.

VoidWhisperer 2y ago

The main difference is that the source code is available under a FSL license and after two years converts to the apache 2.0 license... compared to Stripe where the core part of the system is closed source and proprietary

yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
Ok but it integrates with Stripe, right? If you still need Stripe anyway you may as well use their features directly rather than go through an indirection layer?
- canadiantim 2y ago
  It’s actually better to use a buffer layer so your own payment logic is platform independent, eg if stripe bans you accidentally you can easily use another payment provider
  - yayoohooyahoo 2y ago
    I agree it would be great in this situation but currently it only supports Stripe, and they don't mention plans of supporting any other payment platform.
  - datavirtue 2y ago
    That being said, this does not look to be targeted at small businesses and that problem is one that is only faced by small businesses. Small operations need to have every payment system they can get their hands on (lest one of them throw the ban hammer). A killer feature for smaller operations would be multiple payment integrations.