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Respectfully, I don't think you're framing the problem correctly. You're not merely voting for the President -- you're also voting for his/her administration. B

by _t9ow 2y ago

Respectfully, I don't think you're framing the problem correctly. You're not merely voting for the President -- you're also voting for his/her administration. Biden, despite his cognitive decline, has a very long track record of appointing competent people to get things done (e.g., the American Rescue Plan, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, CHIPS and Science Act, and the Inflation Reduction Act, just to name a few). Kamala, if she receives her party's nomination, will very likely be keeping most of the same staff. Additionally, if you object to Project 2025, that's another good reason to keep Trump out of the White House. You're not merely voting for the President. You're voting for the full package.

_heimdall 2y ago
I also mean this respectfully, this is an interesting discussion and it's easy to lose intent in text. I don't think your view is quite right here either. I'm not voting for an administration, I am actually only voting for the President. I would agree that I'm voting for a person who I trust to make executive decisions, including hiring and outsourcing, but voting for a person and their judgement is still different than voting for the administration comprised of unelected officials. Candidates generally don't announce their cabinet and department appointments until after the election, and it is fairly common for a second term President to shake things up after a reelection. There's an interesting caveat to competence in getting things done. I definitely agree the Biden administration has gotten projects done, I just don't agree with quite a few of them. I think we're worse off for the debt racked up by said programs, and the Inflation Reduction Act was a horribly named and fundamental misguided program that printed and spent new money in an attempt to reduce inflation. Whether you use the old definition of inflation, increasing the money supply, or the new definition, consumer price increases, adding new money into the system isn't a sound approach. I also dislike much (all?) of what is in Project 2025, though I haven't personally seen Trump stand behind it or allude to any intentions of implementing it. Happy to be wrong there if I've missed something, I have a habit of tuning out when he starts talking.
- _t9ow 2y ago
  Trump's Vice President candidate, JD Vance, is a huge proponent of Project 2025: https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/24/jd-vance-project-2025-book-kevin-roberts https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/24/jd-van... Excerpt from the Wikipedia page about Project 2025: "Although Project 2025 cannot legally promote a specific presidential candidate, many contributors are associated with Trump and his 2024 presidential campaign.[43][44][45] The Heritage Foundation employs numerous people closely aligned with Trump,[46][47][48] and coordinates the initiative with various conservative groups run by Trump allies.[49] In 2023, Trump campaign officials acknowledged the project aligned well with their Agenda 47 program.[50] Trump campaign advisers have had regular contact with Project 2025,[51] though the project's controversial proposals have also caused the Trump campaign to view it as an annoyance.[52][53]" Make of that what you will.
LetsGoApp 2y ago
Notably, Trump plans to overhaul federal laws, granting the executive branch unprecedented power to fire federal employees who were previously protected from political whims and executive turnover.

by _t9ow 2y ago

_heimdall 2y ago

I also mean this respectfully, this is an interesting discussion and it's easy to lose intent in text. I don't think your view is quite right here either. I'm not voting for an administration, I am actually only voting for the President. I would agree that I'm voting for a person who I trust to make executive decisions, including hiring and outsourcing, but voting for a person and their judgement is still different than voting for the administration comprised of unelected officials. Candidates generally don't announce their cabinet and department appointments until after the election, and it is fairly common for a second term President to shake things up after a reelection. There's an interesting caveat to competence in getting things done. I definitely agree the Biden administration has gotten projects done, I just don't agree with quite a few of them. I think we're worse off for the debt racked up by said programs, and the Inflation Reduction Act was a horribly named and fundamental misguided program that printed and spent new money in an attempt to reduce inflation. Whether you use the old definition of inflation, increasing the money supply, or the new definition, consumer price increases, adding new money into the system isn't a sound approach. I also dislike much (all?) of what is in Project 2025, though I haven't personally seen Trump stand behind it or allude to any intentions of implementing it. Happy to be wrong there if I've missed something, I have a habit of tuning out when he starts talking.

_t9ow 2y ago
Trump's Vice President candidate, JD Vance, is a huge proponent of Project 2025: https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/24/jd-vance-project-2025-book-kevin-roberts https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/24/jd-van... Excerpt from the Wikipedia page about Project 2025: "Although Project 2025 cannot legally promote a specific presidential candidate, many contributors are associated with Trump and his 2024 presidential campaign.[43][44][45] The Heritage Foundation employs numerous people closely aligned with Trump,[46][47][48] and coordinates the initiative with various conservative groups run by Trump allies.[49] In 2023, Trump campaign officials acknowledged the project aligned well with their Agenda 47 program.[50] Trump campaign advisers have had regular contact with Project 2025,[51] though the project's controversial proposals have also caused the Trump campaign to view it as an annoyance.[52][53]" Make of that what you will.

LetsGoApp 2y ago

Notably, Trump plans to overhaul federal laws, granting the executive branch unprecedented power to fire federal employees who were previously protected from political whims and executive turnover.