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iirc, Ryanair login-walled ticket prices, which means anyone accessing the pricing/booking pages were agreeing to their ToS

Closi 2y ago
I’m not sure that’s what login-walled means (ie I can access pricing and booking pages without logging in) If you search on google you are also agreeing to their terms, there just isn’t a checkbox.
- codetrotter 2y ago
  This case is about more than that: > It says the companies, which use screen-scraping software to find and resell tickets, add additional charges and make it difficult for the airline to contact passengers.
  - benj111 2y ago
    What it's 'about' (according to one side) and the law involved are 2 separate things. When I buy something from the supermarket, they add charges and make it difficult for the manufacturer to contact me directly, so that isn't illegal. Many things with bad outcomes are legal. Breaking the terms of service of the site may be illegal, and if you're mis representing yourself to log in, even more so. But then you're also moving away from what I would term screen scraping.
    - chrisjj 2y ago
      > make it difficult for the manufacturer to contact me directly Probably a good thing in the case of most manufacturers.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  > If you search on google you are also agreeing to their terms, there just isn’t a checkbox. Depends where you are, really. In Europe, where Ryanair does virtually all their business, courts have generally been reluctant to take the "haha, you clicked on the website, you've magically agreed to the license" thing as being particularly meaningful, and recent regulations have cut down the usefulness of EULAs even further. That said, Ryanair prices aren't login-walled anyway.
rsynnott 2y ago
Nah, just went to their website; you don't need to be logged in to price tickets. (It's _possible_ that this is a recent DMA/DSA compliance thing, I suppose.)

Closi 2y ago

I’m not sure that’s what login-walled means (ie I can access pricing and booking pages without logging in) If you search on google you are also agreeing to their terms, there just isn’t a checkbox.

codetrotter 2y ago
This case is about more than that: > It says the companies, which use screen-scraping software to find and resell tickets, add additional charges and make it difficult for the airline to contact passengers.
- benj111 2y ago
  What it's 'about' (according to one side) and the law involved are 2 separate things. When I buy something from the supermarket, they add charges and make it difficult for the manufacturer to contact me directly, so that isn't illegal. Many things with bad outcomes are legal. Breaking the terms of service of the site may be illegal, and if you're mis representing yourself to log in, even more so. But then you're also moving away from what I would term screen scraping.
  - chrisjj 2y ago
    > make it difficult for the manufacturer to contact me directly Probably a good thing in the case of most manufacturers.
rsynnott 2y ago
> If you search on google you are also agreeing to their terms, there just isn’t a checkbox. Depends where you are, really. In Europe, where Ryanair does virtually all their business, courts have generally been reluctant to take the "haha, you clicked on the website, you've magically agreed to the license" thing as being particularly meaningful, and recent regulations have cut down the usefulness of EULAs even further. That said, Ryanair prices aren't login-walled anyway.

rsynnott 2y ago

Nah, just went to their website; you don't need to be logged in to price tickets. (It's _possible_ that this is a recent DMA/DSA compliance thing, I suppose.)