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> it must be because of a DEI hire Of course, white people making mistakes is unheard of. Yeah it's quite frustrating how easily people latch on to the daily

> it must be because of a DEI hire Of course, white people making mistakes is unheard of. Yeah it's quite frustrating how easily people latch on to the daily meme if it reinforces their preexisting prejudices. Republicans calling Kamala Harris the DEI candidate in 3, 2, 1...

wdlou 2y ago
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notepad0x90 2y ago
For the record, crowdstrike isn't the type of company that does DEI hiring. For technical roles, they let technical people from the team you're interviewing for grill you and it is their opinion that decides the outcome of first round interviews.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  I'm not sure what people think inclusive hiring _is_. In almost all cases, it's pretty much entirely about the _pipeline_, trying to attract a more diverse set of people to interview in the first place. There's generally nothing special about the interviews.
  - bdjsiqoocwk 2y ago
    > I'm not sure what people think inclusive hiring _is_ I bet you a lot of people think DEI is companies go "you're black, you're hired". Instead you're absolutely right, it's manipulating the pipeline so that 50% are the overall best and 50% are diverse. The "diverse" ones also have to do great in their interviews, no one is automatically hired.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
      > it's manipulating the pipeline so that 50% are the overall best and 50% are diverse Not even that; it’s changing the pipeline so that it has a lower weighting on upper-middle-class white men who went to one of about four universities (which does not actually equate with ‘overall best’). One surprisingly simple thing that companies can do is be realistic about their requirements in the job spec. There’s a fair bit of evidence that if you have an aspirational job spec, then some candidates will go “well, I meet some of that” and apply, and others will go “well, I only have five years of experience in [whatever], not six like it says in the job spec” and won’t apply. And group 2 tends to be less male, less white, and more working-class.
wongogue 2y ago
For your last point, there already is a long thread in the Biden post yesterday. As per them, it makes both the sides same somehow.

wdlou 2y ago

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notepad0x90 2y ago

For the record, crowdstrike isn't the type of company that does DEI hiring. For technical roles, they let technical people from the team you're interviewing for grill you and it is their opinion that decides the outcome of first round interviews.

rsynnott 2y ago
I'm not sure what people think inclusive hiring _is_. In almost all cases, it's pretty much entirely about the _pipeline_, trying to attract a more diverse set of people to interview in the first place. There's generally nothing special about the interviews.
- bdjsiqoocwk 2y ago
  > I'm not sure what people think inclusive hiring _is_ I bet you a lot of people think DEI is companies go "you're black, you're hired". Instead you're absolutely right, it's manipulating the pipeline so that 50% are the overall best and 50% are diverse. The "diverse" ones also have to do great in their interviews, no one is automatically hired.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    > it's manipulating the pipeline so that 50% are the overall best and 50% are diverse Not even that; it’s changing the pipeline so that it has a lower weighting on upper-middle-class white men who went to one of about four universities (which does not actually equate with ‘overall best’). One surprisingly simple thing that companies can do is be realistic about their requirements in the job spec. There’s a fair bit of evidence that if you have an aspirational job spec, then some candidates will go “well, I meet some of that” and apply, and others will go “well, I only have five years of experience in [whatever], not six like it says in the job spec” and won’t apply. And group 2 tends to be less male, less white, and more working-class.

wongogue 2y ago

For your last point, there already is a long thread in the Biden post yesterday. As per them, it makes both the sides same somehow.