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Quite right! We can only regret that similar minimum-age limits weren't put in place for other offices. Here in ye olde Europe (and I believe the same for the

Quite right! We can only regret that similar minimum-age limits weren't put in place for other offices. Here in ye olde Europe (and I believe the same for the U.S.), it is unfortunately common to see extremely young, as in literal college students, parliamentarians -- most of them handsome, well-spoken and opinionated; and some also coincidentally the children of famous politicians or businesspeople :-)

jjk166 2y ago
In the US there were similar minimum age limits for other offices. President was 35, upper chamber legislator 30, lower chamber legislator 25.
lupire 2y ago
Why do you find it so offensive that people get to choose who they want to be their leader?
- vkou 2y ago
  All people in all countries choose who they want to be their leader. If Russians didn't like Putin, they'd string his entrails up from a lamp post. All governments, democratic or despotic can only govern with the consent of their subjects. It's thus reasonable to dislike the precise mechanisms by which that consent (explicit and implied) is achieved in any particular country.
  - beaglesss 2y ago
    They really only need consent of 2-3% of very violent people and for the rest to non-violently not consent.
    - vkou 2y ago
      Most people will become sufficiently violent if unhappy enough. The world's always three meals from anarchy.
      - beaglesss 2y ago
        Sometimes. On the other hand a surprisingly large number of women are raped and dont fight back because they are overwhelmed with various forceful factors. I imagine being raped feels quite unhappy, possibly even more so than missing 3 meals. I'll have to look more into the 'seasoning' islands full of slaves in the Caribbean during the slave trade years. IIRC they were treated as bad as you can get, were the majority, and didn't consent yet practically didn't overthrow their dictator in most circumstances (Haiti might count as an exception).
  - rospaya 2y ago
    > All governments, democratic or despotic can only govern with the consent of their subjects. That's the definition of a despotic government - ruling without consent. Any rule comes from the end of a gun.
- mdp2021 2y ago
  Because those "«people»" choose it for everybody else I.e., your statement is translated to "that large masses of possibly unqualified people choose wrongly qualified people as having power over other people, with important regard to people in their right mind". It is not a value; it is a concern tackled in systemic planning.

jjk166 2y ago

In the US there were similar minimum age limits for other offices. President was 35, upper chamber legislator 30, lower chamber legislator 25.

lupire 2y ago

Why do you find it so offensive that people get to choose who they want to be their leader?

vkou 2y ago
All people in all countries choose who they want to be their leader. If Russians didn't like Putin, they'd string his entrails up from a lamp post. All governments, democratic or despotic can only govern with the consent of their subjects. It's thus reasonable to dislike the precise mechanisms by which that consent (explicit and implied) is achieved in any particular country.
- beaglesss 2y ago
  They really only need consent of 2-3% of very violent people and for the rest to non-violently not consent.
  - vkou 2y ago
    Most people will become sufficiently violent if unhappy enough. The world's always three meals from anarchy.
    - beaglesss 2y ago
      Sometimes. On the other hand a surprisingly large number of women are raped and dont fight back because they are overwhelmed with various forceful factors. I imagine being raped feels quite unhappy, possibly even more so than missing 3 meals. I'll have to look more into the 'seasoning' islands full of slaves in the Caribbean during the slave trade years. IIRC they were treated as bad as you can get, were the majority, and didn't consent yet practically didn't overthrow their dictator in most circumstances (Haiti might count as an exception).
- rospaya 2y ago
  > All governments, democratic or despotic can only govern with the consent of their subjects. That's the definition of a despotic government - ruling without consent. Any rule comes from the end of a gun.
mdp2021 2y ago
Because those "«people»" choose it for everybody else I.e., your statement is translated to "that large masses of possibly unqualified people choose wrongly qualified people as having power over other people, with important regard to people in their right mind". It is not a value; it is a concern tackled in systemic planning.