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This is a really peak crazy libertarian take on the issue of artists and content creators being peeved that AI is making crappier content for cheaper and drivin
by zifpanachr23 2y ago
This is a really peak crazy
libertarian take on the issue of artists and content creators being peeved that AI is making crappier content for cheaper and driving down their job opportunities and wages, after training on their content (and sometimes regurgitating it word for word in large chunks) and not paying royalties.
If you think artistic people of various kinds are doing particularly well and need to have their privilege checked to stop the discrimination against AI tech bros...then I think you are out of touch. The starving artist meme is a thing for a reason, and most content creators are not making a lot of money. They enjoy it, and maybe make a little on the side. But most work a shitty day job as well to fund their passion, the thing that makes them enjoy life and helps them find meaning. They just want to contribute to culture and enjoy making art but wouldn't be able to justify it if all the existing low wage starving artist work dries up in favor of essentially free AI generated crap.
I'd hazard a guess that the majority of the country would take their side and call Silicon Valley tech bros and VCs privileged and anti-social.
I think a culture in which it is non-viable for an ordinary person to participate in art and culture on the side is kind of sad. I value these things because there is a person on the other end and it helps me empathize and try and understand how they are feeling and thinking. An AI kills that. You'll get great stock photos generic advertising, but you'll destroy something fundamental to human culture.
- cherryteastain 2y agoEverything not expressly prohibited by law is permitted. Extending copyright retroactively to cover AI training is like prohibiting the wearing of blue shorts on Thursdays and fining anyone who has ever worn blue shorts on a Thursday.
- worstspotgain 2y agoIf my college textbook's author demanded a percentage cut of my future earnings I'd be much more peeved than content creators are now. I think pointing out that it's crappy is a much better critique of crappy content than looking at how it was generated. As for tech bros vs. artists, that's a reality show I haven't watched and one I'm not interested in. I'm interested in progress and human advancement, and I'm definitely not a Libertarian or tech bro.
- evdubs 2y ago> If my college textbook's author demanded a percentage cut of my future earnings I'd be much more peeved than content creators are now. If you were writing highly derivative textbooks, your college textbook's author would be peeved, too. That is the AI analogy, not that you read a chemistry textbook and are then breaking some law when you go do chemistry.
- FeepingCreature 2y agoYou think chemistry textbook authors haven't read chemistry textbooks? Heck, you think they haven't read chemistry textbooks as references, while writing their own textbooks?
- evdubs 2y agoAgain, it's not about reading. It's about either acquiring in a way that is infringing or producing output that is infringing. If you write a chapter with something like, "Ionic bonds are bonds that occur between two elements where one or more electrons transfer to a particular element," it's not copyright infringement for another author to discuss ionic bonds. It's copyright infringement to copy the material. It's copyright infringement to produce output that is the same or substantially similar.
- worstspotgain 2y agoAre you assuming that all or most AIs generate derivative passages from textbooks when you ask them Chemistry questions? I'd be surprised if that was the case for even a single modern LLM.
- evdubs 2y agoI assume that all generative AI output is derivative of the training material (and the prompt). Because, what else would it be?
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- Workaccount2 2y agoContent creators have an uphill battle to fight once courts learn that transformers are not massive repositories of artwork. Image generator models are a few GB in size, despite copyright claimants saying there are petabytes in there.
- yencabulator 2y agoAh so if I compress an IMAX movie release with hevc with medium quality settings at 1080p I'm good to go. Thanks!
- worstspotgain 2y agoIf you XOR it with 1000000 other movies then filter everything with fisheye then compress it to 10x6 0.1fps resolution you're absolutely OK with copyright law.