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You are correct. What motivated the change was Aaron Burr campaigning against Jefferson in the 1800 Presidential election and both were part of the Democratic-R

by SllX 2y ago

You are correct. What motivated the change was Aaron Burr campaigning against Jefferson in the 1800 Presidential election and both were part of the Democratic-Republican Party. For subsequent elections the Democratic-Republican Party continued to dominate elections during the era of Good Feelings right up until the 1828 Election when Andrew Jackson under the Democratic Party defeated John Quincy Adams under the National Republican Party. Note on those parties: the Democratic-Republican Party isn’t related to either of those parties; Andrew Jackson was the first time the Democratic Party put any candidate into the office of the President and while that’s the same Party as the one that exists today, the National Republican Party is not related to today’s Republican Party. We just really like reusing two words for most of our party names.

_heimdall 2y ago
I think it may have a been on the Dangerous History Podcast, but I listened to an episode of the hodtory of American Policies parties. It was fascinating to hear how often they flipped and was seems to have been the reason when parties did change or disolve.
- SllX 2y ago
  I'll check it out when I get a chance. As irritating as this particular election is to me, I'm still fairly into the history of our elections.
  - _heimdall 2y ago
    Found a link to the episodes, it was a two part series. The Dangerous History Podcast: Ep. 0118: Party Systems in American History, Part I Episode webpage: http://profcj.org http://profcj.org Media file: https://chrt.fm/track/95538/traffic.megaphone.fm/ADL6638757482.mp3 https://chrt.fm/track/95538/traffic.megaphone.fm/ADL66387574...
mcswell 2y ago
What issues that were important back then are still relevant today? That's a serious question, not a snide remark. I guess tariffs are, but (I think) for different reasons. Anything else?
- jackcosgrove 2y ago
  An insider-outsider dynamic, with educated people in the northeastern cities usually playing the role of insiders regardless of the party system. It's not an issue, but it is an electoral dynamic that affected a lot of issues. This might be at a level of abstraction higher than what you're looking for.
- SllX 2y ago
  Same things as what Washington and Adams had to deal with: state-building. There were the very contentious issues of the Bank of the United States (the Democratic-Republicans under Jefferson and Madison were originally opposed to a National Bank under prior administrations but essentially accepted it as a necessary evil) and slavery, maintaining the balance of power between States in the Senate, appointing justices, postmasters and military commanders, defending the western frontier from Indians, populating the Ohio River Valley, managing relations with the French, British and Spanish, warring with the British, buying Louisiana from France, resolving border disputes with the British and Spanish in North America, etc. I mean beyond that, most issues were local. Voters only voted directly for their Representatives, local offices and Electors during the Presidential Elections, and who that Elector was mattered a lot more given you know, this is basically almost entirely pre-Industrial Revolution and both long distance traveling and long distance communications was still basically Medieval-tier garbage. You wanted to know that your Representative was getting you a good deal in Office and was a man of good character by whatever standard you judged that to be. EDIT: Almost forgot: checkout American Elections: Wicked Game (a podcast) for the nitty gritty on individual elections. They covered every Presidential election leading up to the 2020 election and they’re currently in the midst of re-releasing it leading up to this year’s election with some updated content.
  - mcswell 2y ago

by SllX 2y ago

_heimdall 2y ago

I think it may have a been on the Dangerous History Podcast, but I listened to an episode of the hodtory of American Policies parties. It was fascinating to hear how often they flipped and was seems to have been the reason when parties did change or disolve.

SllX 2y ago
I'll check it out when I get a chance. As irritating as this particular election is to me, I'm still fairly into the history of our elections.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Found a link to the episodes, it was a two part series. The Dangerous History Podcast: Ep. 0118: Party Systems in American History, Part I Episode webpage: http://profcj.org http://profcj.org Media file: https://chrt.fm/track/95538/traffic.megaphone.fm/ADL6638757482.mp3 https://chrt.fm/track/95538/traffic.megaphone.fm/ADL66387574...

mcswell 2y ago

What issues that were important back then are still relevant today? That's a serious question, not a snide remark. I guess tariffs are, but (I think) for different reasons. Anything else?

jackcosgrove 2y ago
An insider-outsider dynamic, with educated people in the northeastern cities usually playing the role of insiders regardless of the party system. It's not an issue, but it is an electoral dynamic that affected a lot of issues. This might be at a level of abstraction higher than what you're looking for.
SllX 2y ago
Same things as what Washington and Adams had to deal with: state-building. There were the very contentious issues of the Bank of the United States (the Democratic-Republicans under Jefferson and Madison were originally opposed to a National Bank under prior administrations but essentially accepted it as a necessary evil) and slavery, maintaining the balance of power between States in the Senate, appointing justices, postmasters and military commanders, defending the western frontier from Indians, populating the Ohio River Valley, managing relations with the French, British and Spanish, warring with the British, buying Louisiana from France, resolving border disputes with the British and Spanish in North America, etc. I mean beyond that, most issues were local. Voters only voted directly for their Representatives, local offices and Electors during the Presidential Elections, and who that Elector was mattered a lot more given you know, this is basically almost entirely pre-Industrial Revolution and both long distance traveling and long distance communications was still basically Medieval-tier garbage. You wanted to know that your Representative was getting you a good deal in Office and was a man of good character by whatever standard you judged that to be. EDIT: Almost forgot: checkout American Elections: Wicked Game (a podcast) for the nitty gritty on individual elections. They covered every Presidential election leading up to the 2020 election and they’re currently in the midst of re-releasing it leading up to this year’s election with some updated content.
- mcswell 2y ago