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I've been firmly in camp Intel ever since my third Athlon 2200XP burned itself out (and finally took the motherboard socket with it on its way to the melty grav

I've been firmly in camp Intel ever since my third Athlon 2200XP burned itself out (and finally took the motherboard socket with it on its way to the melty grave) back in circa ~2005 (Intel CPUs had thermal envelope protection at the time, AMD CPUs did not). This fiasco has me convinced that I will not be building an Intel system again, and I haven't even (yet) had any problems with either of the Z790 i7-14700K systems I put together in March.

cooljacob204 2y ago
Being in any camp is just a bad way to approach things. I go with AMD because they make the best desktop CPUs right now. When Intel gets their shit together (hopefully) and the pendulum swings back I'll go with them. These are all corporations at the end of the day. They get better and worse overtime. They certainly never stay the same forever and deserve any kind of loyalty to their brand.
- BoingBoomTschak 2y ago
  Well, maybe, but Intel is historically much scummier than AMD ever was. ICC benchmark cheating, OEM bribery debacle, ECC only for XEON, constant socket changes, shitty non-solder TIM for a long time, etc...
  - immibis 2y ago
    Remember when Nvidia used to have the better open source drivers than ATI? The company that's in the lead always acts the shittiest because they can because they already have the lead. Don't tie yourself to one company.
rasz 2y ago
Changing platforms was easier than fixing cooling?
- aaronmdjones 2y ago
  Unknown to me at the time (I wasn't even yet an adult) is that the heatsink was of an incorrect model, so it wasn't making good contact and doing the job properly. This wouldn't have been a problem if the CPU thermal throttled; that would immediately cause a performance problem that I would have been curious about. No, instead they just died, over the course of about 2 years. Changing platform wasn't my choice, my mother bought a new desktop and it had a Pentium. I don't remember the model.

cooljacob204 2y ago

Being in any camp is just a bad way to approach things. I go with AMD because they make the best desktop CPUs right now. When Intel gets their shit together (hopefully) and the pendulum swings back I'll go with them. These are all corporations at the end of the day. They get better and worse overtime. They certainly never stay the same forever and deserve any kind of loyalty to their brand.

BoingBoomTschak 2y ago
Well, maybe, but Intel is historically much scummier than AMD ever was. ICC benchmark cheating, OEM bribery debacle, ECC only for XEON, constant socket changes, shitty non-solder TIM for a long time, etc...
- immibis 2y ago
  Remember when Nvidia used to have the better open source drivers than ATI? The company that's in the lead always acts the shittiest because they can because they already have the lead. Don't tie yourself to one company.

rasz 2y ago

Changing platforms was easier than fixing cooling?

aaronmdjones 2y ago
Unknown to me at the time (I wasn't even yet an adult) is that the heatsink was of an incorrect model, so it wasn't making good contact and doing the job properly. This wouldn't have been a problem if the CPU thermal throttled; that would immediately cause a performance problem that I would have been curious about. No, instead they just died, over the course of about 2 years. Changing platform wasn't my choice, my mother bought a new desktop and it had a Pentium. I don't remember the model.