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If you love your coworkers, but hate your company's mission, should you stay or leave?

Mistletoe 2y ago
Leave. I’ve never known employees to override the company. More likely you are all a bunch of good guys committing war crimes together. Is that much better?
rexpop 2y ago
You should probably leave, because odds are good they're not thinking the same way you're thinking. The mutual aspect is critical; it's a Prisoner's Dilemma. A society of constant, unthinking defectors, on the other hand, is unsustainable.
teaearlgraycold 2y ago
You can always hang out with them if you're all in the same area. My experience has been that as long as you filter for good work culture when applying for jobs you'll find a place with good coworkers.
cornel_io 2y ago
Leave. You can always hire them/work with them again later (chain hiring of teams is a very common thing even if you're not at a high level), but if you burn out while you're alongside them they might shift their opinion of you...
toomuchtodo 2y ago
They might be friends, but more often than not, coworkers are NPCs you’ll never hear from again after separating from the org. Certainly keep friends, but don’t sabotage yourself for some mistaken idea of collective and shared struggle. It’s just a job.
- pxc 2y ago
  > NPCs you’ll never hear from again after separating from the org Isn't this also on you to maintain those relationships if they're people you care about? And on the same note, if you care about those people you can find ways to keep in touch, like starting a regular group activity.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    How much effort would you expect in the current macro? Absolutely, effort is required to maintain relationships, and one must evaluate who is and isn’t worth the investment of time and effort. Some are worth it, some are frankly not. Not from an ROI perspective, but meeting you half way in an adult relationship. Not many people are willing to put the effort in, in my experience. YMMV. I wish others more favorable outcomes.

Leave. I’ve never known employees to override the company. More likely you are all a bunch of good guys committing war crimes together. Is that much better?

rexpop 2y ago

You should probably leave, because odds are good they're not thinking the same way you're thinking. The mutual aspect is critical; it's a Prisoner's Dilemma. A society of constant, unthinking defectors, on the other hand, is unsustainable.

teaearlgraycold 2y ago

You can always hang out with them if you're all in the same area. My experience has been that as long as you filter for good work culture when applying for jobs you'll find a place with good coworkers.

cornel_io 2y ago

Leave. You can always hire them/work with them again later (chain hiring of teams is a very common thing even if you're not at a high level), but if you burn out while you're alongside them they might shift their opinion of you...

toomuchtodo 2y ago

They might be friends, but more often than not, coworkers are NPCs you’ll never hear from again after separating from the org. Certainly keep friends, but don’t sabotage yourself for some mistaken idea of collective and shared struggle. It’s just a job.

pxc 2y ago
> NPCs you’ll never hear from again after separating from the org Isn't this also on you to maintain those relationships if they're people you care about? And on the same note, if you care about those people you can find ways to keep in touch, like starting a regular group activity.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  How much effort would you expect in the current macro? Absolutely, effort is required to maintain relationships, and one must evaluate who is and isn’t worth the investment of time and effort. Some are worth it, some are frankly not. Not from an ROI perspective, but meeting you half way in an adult relationship. Not many people are willing to put the effort in, in my experience. YMMV. I wish others more favorable outcomes.