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Endorses Kamala so probably no 'mini-primary' or other challengers which is a bit of a shame. Kamala was pretty uninspiring in the primary and hasn't seemed to

Endorses Kamala so probably no 'mini-primary' or other challengers which is a bit of a shame. Kamala was pretty uninspiring in the primary and hasn't seemed to get a lot done as vice president while trump has gathering momentum and, maybe more importantly, money. The 'king making' party apparatus that pushed Biden despite the health issues has a lot to answer for.

jonhohle 2y ago
Harris didn’t make it to _a_ primary. If her debate performance is anything like it was in 2020, her campaign is already over.
- scoofy 2y ago
  Nobody was voting for Biden for Biden... people were voting against Trump. I think any of the leaders Harris, Whitmer, Newsom will all do fine. The bar is so low right now, I think most people will be impressed by basic competence, which all three have in spades.
  - cdrini 2y ago
    I wish folks wouldn't speak in absolutes this much, it's incorrect and tends to raise the temperature of a generally already heated discussion. Biden's approval rating was like 40% for most of his term. So many many many people voted for Biden for Biden. Many people followed his progress and are happy with it.
throwaway984393 2y ago
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dbcurtis 2y ago
The reality is that the campaign donations accumulated by the Biden/Harris ticket are only available to Harris. Anybody else is funding-challenged even more than Harris at this point. From the standpoint of campaign finance laws and the practical realities of fund-raising, it was Harris all along.
- pan69 2y ago
  The Biden/Harris campaign can not donate their donations?
  - dbcurtis 2y ago
    I must admit that I don't know all the nuance of campaign finance laws, but the donors gave their money to a particular campaign. It isn't completely clear to me under what circumstances those funds can be pledged to another candidate without getting the original donors' sign-off. But as I understand it, much of the Biden/Harris money is restricted to the campaign.
  - jiveturkey 2y ago
    You think Harris would abdicate?
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    To a superpack otherwise they are limited to individual limits. Super Packs pay more for ads during a campaign.
  - humanlion87 2y ago
    They can donate the entire fund to the DNC. And then the DNC can choose to transfer it to the new nominee. There are a few technicalities though.
  - tylerhou 2y ago
    Generally no. They could refund their donations and ask their donators to donate to the new campaign. Or they could donate to a superpac.
- toast0 2y ago
  I've been seeing things that say they could form a SuperPAC with the existing donations and we know SuperPACs have more or less no real limit on spending as long as it's not coordinated with a candidate. OTOH, candidates get a better ad rate than SuperPACs, so there's a lot of dollar effeciency lost if you have to go that way.

jonhohle 2y ago

Harris didn’t make it to _a_ primary. If her debate performance is anything like it was in 2020, her campaign is already over.

scoofy 2y ago
Nobody was voting for Biden for Biden... people were voting against Trump. I think any of the leaders Harris, Whitmer, Newsom will all do fine. The bar is so low right now, I think most people will be impressed by basic competence, which all three have in spades.
- cdrini 2y ago
  I wish folks wouldn't speak in absolutes this much, it's incorrect and tends to raise the temperature of a generally already heated discussion. Biden's approval rating was like 40% for most of his term. So many many many people voted for Biden for Biden. Many people followed his progress and are happy with it.

throwaway984393 2y ago

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dbcurtis 2y ago

The reality is that the campaign donations accumulated by the Biden/Harris ticket are only available to Harris. Anybody else is funding-challenged even more than Harris at this point. From the standpoint of campaign finance laws and the practical realities of fund-raising, it was Harris all along.

pan69 2y ago
The Biden/Harris campaign can not donate their donations?
- dbcurtis 2y ago
  I must admit that I don't know all the nuance of campaign finance laws, but the donors gave their money to a particular campaign. It isn't completely clear to me under what circumstances those funds can be pledged to another candidate without getting the original donors' sign-off. But as I understand it, much of the Biden/Harris money is restricted to the campaign.
- jiveturkey 2y ago
  You think Harris would abdicate?
- ipaddr 2y ago
  To a superpack otherwise they are limited to individual limits. Super Packs pay more for ads during a campaign.
- humanlion87 2y ago
  They can donate the entire fund to the DNC. And then the DNC can choose to transfer it to the new nominee. There are a few technicalities though.
- tylerhou 2y ago
  Generally no. They could refund their donations and ask their donators to donate to the new campaign. Or they could donate to a superpac.
toast0 2y ago
I've been seeing things that say they could form a SuperPAC with the existing donations and we know SuperPACs have more or less no real limit on spending as long as it's not coordinated with a candidate. OTOH, candidates get a better ad rate than SuperPACs, so there's a lot of dollar effeciency lost if you have to go that way.